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Ultimately nobody is being forced to donate and as long as it's spent for the specified purpose then fair enough. What I'd like to know is whether he'd be going the legal route if it all had to come out of his own pocket.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel well then the principle would be different...
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@NTA said in The Folau Factor:
@Kirwan seriously tho a lot of the hardcore Bible bashers here are throwing cash into it, like this is the pinnacle of free speech/religion judgements; an existential threat or something
He's probably not the hero people want but I think many will be looking to this as someone making a stand. There is definitely a lot of pent up angst in Australia at the excesses of the progressive movement especially over the events of the last 2-3 years and the refusal of many to call it out, Folau might just be the symbol of a resistance even if it might look like he is money grubbing to many.
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@MajorRage said in The Folau Factor:
100 percent with Drew
Nah that's fucked up. Completely uncalled for. So he can't use GoFundMe because there are more worthy causes?
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@barbarian said in The Folau Factor:
I don't have a problem with him doing this, he's within his rights to seek donations for whatever he wants.
But I'm also within my rights to call him a selfish, greedy, money-grabbing dickhead. He's a multi-millionaire, and instead of asking people to donate to the millions of worthy causes in the world, he's asking us to bankroll a legal defence he should be able to easily afford.
I can also criticise him on a fundamental religious level too, because to me is at odds with the general vibe of the New Testament.
Amen to that. No issue with him raising money if he likes, but equally there can be no issue with me calling him whatever I like. What a prick.
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@Siam said in The Folau Factor:
The will of the people I guess
And Drew Mitchell tweet is actually aimed at the donors. Nothing wrong with asking for money
Israel isn't allowed to publically criticize the actions of others but Drew is?
Everyone is allowed to publicly criticise the actions of others. No doubt people will criticise Drew. You might even do so yourself, and no-one will censor you for doing so.
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Must we all always explain the rules about free speech as a prelude to all opinions?
"I'm within my rights to point out that opinion conflicts are not a zero sum game. No opinion beats another, it's just an indicator of knowledge and intelligence"- is that how it works?
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@Siam said in The Folau Factor:
Must we all always explain the rules about free speech as a prelude to all opinions?
"I'm within my rights to point out that opinion conflicts are not a zero sum game. No opinion beats another, it's just an indicator of knowledge and intelligence"- is that how it works?
No idea what you are trying to say. Perhaps you could rephrase.
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@Siam said in The Folau Factor:
@Damo Drew Mitchell is definitely casting a slur on the donors though. Smug superiority
Is he? The tweet that I read is speaking directly to Folau. I agree with Drew. If Folau wants to go to court on what is essentially a civil lawsuit for money, he should fund it himself.
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@Siam said in The Folau Factor:
@Damo you have an opinion of Folau, do you have an opinion of the donors?
Cool if you don't mateNot really. They aren't harming anyone to any great degree I don't think. At least they are contributing their own cash to something they believe in.
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@Damo yep, same here.
I just can't be fucked judging someone breaking no laws, who I've never met. I don't know his set up
I do find corporate ARU more culpable for escalating this mess, their hurried first response bordered on hysterical. Should have been negotiated privately like any "family" dispute
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