Should the Crusaders change their name?
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@antipodean Not sure whether to take your post seriously, but I'll answer it anyway. If you commit to something (like a brand review) and initiate an investigation (like that of Research First and Allen+Clark) of a possible name change, then obviously you'll get a lot of questions at some point about how you have met your commitments and what the outcomes of that investigation are. If - at that point - it appears that you haven't done anything (hoping the issue would die, like you are suggesting), then shit will really hit the fan. Especially because a lot of the "agitating" was not initiated by people on twitter or Facebook, but by the media. And as you know, media love their clickbait, so they definitely won't let go.
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@Stargazer said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
@antipodean Not sure whether to take your post seriously, but I'll answer it anyway. If you commit to something (like a brand review) and initiate an investigation (like that of Research First and Allen+Clark) of a possible name change, then obviously you'll get a lot of questions at some point about how you have met your commitments and what the outcomes of that investigation are.
Since I have to spell it out. Inferred in my post was they didn't engage anyone to conduct a review.
If - at that point - it appears that you haven't done anything (hoping the issue would die, like you are suggesting), then shit will really hit the fan. Especially because a lot of the "agitating" was not initiated by people on twitter or Facebook, but by the media. And as you know, media love their clickbait, so they definitely won't let go.
The media is responsive to Twitter etc., not the other way round.
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@antipodean said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
@Stargazer said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
@antipodean Not sure whether to take your post seriously, but I'll answer it anyway. If you commit to something (like a brand review) and initiate an investigation (like that of Research First and Allen+Clark) of a possible name change, then obviously you'll get a lot of questions at some point about how you have met your commitments and what the outcomes of that investigation are.
Since I have to spell it out. Inferred in my post was they didn't engage anyone to conduct a review.
Well, they had already initiated the review*, so your conclusion was wrong. Whether they should have initiated that review, is a moot point.
If - at that point - it appears that you haven't done anything (hoping the issue would die, like you are suggesting), then shit will really hit the fan. Especially because a lot of the "agitating" was not initiated by people on twitter or Facebook, but by the media. And as you know, media love their clickbait, so they definitely won't let go.
The media is responsive to Twitter etc., not the other way round.
In this case, it started with an article from Ross Karl, in a totally misplaced reaction to the terror attack in Chch.
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@Stargazer said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
@antipodean said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
@Stargazer said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
@antipodean Not sure whether to take your post seriously, but I'll answer it anyway. If you commit to something (like a brand review) and initiate an investigation (like that of Research First and Allen+Clark) of a possible name change, then obviously you'll get a lot of questions at some point about how you have met your commitments and what the outcomes of that investigation are.
Since I have to spell it out. Inferred in my post was they didn't engage anyone to conduct a review.
Well, they had already initiated the review*, so your conclusion was wrong. Whether they should have initiated that review, is a moot point.
My point is to initiating the review, so it's not moot.
If - at that point - it appears that you haven't done anything (hoping the issue would die, like you are suggesting), then shit will really hit the fan. Especially because a lot of the "agitating" was not initiated by people on twitter or Facebook, but by the media. And as you know, media love their clickbait, so they definitely won't let go.
The media is responsive to Twitter etc., not the other way round.
In this case, it started with an article from Ross Karl, in a totally misplaced reaction to the terror attack in Chch.
Was that before his article? Or because it hadn't been raised before?
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"None of the current considerations are seeking to undo any part of our proud history..."
No, apart from the name and logo they're not seeking to change anything. What a ridiculous joke.
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Don't know about other Crusaders supporters on the Fern but I hate the changing of the Crusaders Logo but I will not stop supporting my team because of it.
Some of the knee jerk reaction I am reading on I won't support the Crusaders anymore Not on the fern but elsewhere well Fuck off then you never were a supporter I went through the first years of being Shit the Blackadder years when we couldn't win shit.Earthquakes AMI stadium being pulled my team playing in a shitty cold hole of a stadium and you so called supporters sook about that shit.Makes me sick.
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@Chris said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
Don't know about other Crusaders supporters on the Fern but I hate the changing of the Crusaders Logo but I will not stop supporting my team because of it.
Some of the knee jerk reaction I am reading on I won't support the Crusaders anymore Not on the fern but elsewhere well Fuck off then you never were a supporter I went through the first years of being Shit the Blackadder years when we couldn't win shit.Earthquakes AMI stadium being pulled my team playing in a shitty cold hole of a stadium and you so called supporters sook about that shit.Makes me sick.
Rant Over.How did you manage those long bleak 2 years (over 20 years ago) when the Saders were not one of the most awesome teams in super rugby?
I thought it was impossible to be a long suffering saders fan. -
@Baron-Silas-Greenback blood sweat and tears mate, blood sweat and tears. But got through it with the support of family and friends. It was inspiring seeing the fans really get behind the team in 98, 99 and 2000. They didn’t lose hope after the tough times of 2001 and were back in full voice in 2002.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
@Chris said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
Don't know about other Crusaders supporters on the Fern but I hate the changing of the Crusaders Logo but I will not stop supporting my team because of it.
Some of the knee jerk reaction I am reading on I won't support the Crusaders anymore Not on the fern but elsewhere well Fuck off then you never were a supporter I went through the first years of being Shit the Blackadder years when we couldn't win shit.Earthquakes AMI stadium being pulled my team playing in a shitty cold hole of a stadium and you so called supporters sook about that shit.Makes me sick.
Rant Over.How did you manage those long bleak 2 years (over 20 years ago) when the Saders were not one of the most awesome teams in super rugby?
I thought it was impossible to be a long suffering saders fan.Guts, determination and loyalty to the Red and Black got me through
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@Chris said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
@Kirwan said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
So what ended up being decided? Keeping the name, losing the sword?
At the moment sword and knight gone from the Logo for 2020 name stays for next season but under review for 2021
Ahh, the weasly chicken shit way of changing the name.