European Politics
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@jegga Utterly ridiculous call by YouTube when you actually watch it. Oh well, helps my Mrs get red pilled, she isn't political,thought it was an interesting doco and now seeing it being censored thinks something is very screwy with social media.
Bitchute link (May need a VPN if Oz based as YouTube doesn't like competition and Telstra are happy to comply with their wishes)
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Stellar reporting. Anti-jewish attacks on the rise in Germany to the point where Jews are being advised not to wear their kippahs. And the reason for this recent increase in crime...growing AfD support.
Maybe the writer should click BBC's own related stories to check for another potential theory.
The bias is incredible. Is anyone still falling for it?
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@Rembrandt said in European Politics:
Stellar reporting. Anti-jewish attacks on the rise in Germany to the point where Jews are being advised not to wear their kippahs. And the reason for this recent increase in crime...growing AfD support.
Maybe the writer should click BBC's own related stories to check for another potential theory.
The bias is incredible. Is anyone still falling for it?
Yes, that must be it. Can't think of anything else that has happened in Germany recently that might cause a spike in antisemitism. I'm sure it's the ethnic Germans that Jews have to look out for.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in European Politics:
@Rembrandt said in European Politics:
Stellar reporting. Anti-jewish attacks on the rise in Germany to the point where Jews are being advised not to wear their kippahs. And the reason for this recent increase in crime...growing AfD support.
Maybe the writer should click BBC's own related stories to check for another potential theory.
The bias is incredible. Is anyone still falling for it?
Yes, that must be it. Can't think of anything else that has happened in Germany recently that might cause a spike in antisemitism. I'm sure it's the ethnic Germans that Jews have to look out for.
Not unheard of, you Holocaust Denier 😀
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OMG- this is a YUGE admission on the part of the queen of the liberals - Merkel.
Who would have thought?
Has common sense prevailed or is she just trying to protect her and her party's position?
Probably the latter.Attempts to build a multicultural society in Germany have "utterly failed", Chancellor Angela Merkel says.
She said the so-called "multikulti" concept - where people would "live side-by-side" happily - did not work, and immigrants needed to do more to integrate - including learning German.
The comments come amid rising anti-immigration feeling in Germany.
A recent survey suggested more than 30% of people believed the country was "overrun by foreigners".
The study - by the Friedrich Ebert Foundation think-tank - also showed that roughly the same number thought that some 16 million of Germany's immigrants or people with foreign origins had come to the country for its social benefits.
Foreign workers
Mrs Merkel told a gathering of younger members of her conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party on Saturday that at "the beginning of the 60s our country called the foreign workers to come to Germany and now they live in our country."She added: "We kidded ourselves a while, we said: 'They won't stay, sometime they will be gone', but this isn't reality."
Angela Merkel took pains to say immigrants are welcome.
The words "utterly failed" are very strong, but there are also nuanced messages about the usefulness of immigrants in a country that needs skilled labour.
She is pitching it very carefully, with important elections coming up in the spring.
The tone is very important.
The chancellor is basically saying that Germany needs immigrants but immigrants need to do something to get into the society.
Germany's charged immigration debate
"And of course, the approach [to build] a multicultural [society] and to live side-by-side and to enjoy each other... has failed, utterly failed."
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In her speech in Potsdam, however, the chancellor made clear that immigrants were welcome in Germany.She specifically referred to recent comments by German President Christian Wulff who said that Islam was "part of Germany", like Christianity and Judaism.
Mrs Merkel said: "We should not be a country either which gives the impression to the outside world that those who don't speak German immediately or who were not raised speaking German are not welcome here."
Mounting debate
There has been intense debate about multiculturalism in Germany in recent months.Correspondents say Mrs Merkel faces pressure from within her CDU and its allies to take a tougher stance and require immigrants to do more to adapt to German society.
Earlier this week, Horst Seehofer, the leader of the CDU's Bavarian sister party, the CSU, said it was "obvious that immigrants from different cultures like Turkey and Arab countries, all in all, find it harder" to integrate.
"'Multikulti' is dead," Mr Seehofer said.
Earlier this month the chancellor held talks with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in which the two leaders pledged to do more to improve the often poor integration record of Germany's estimated 2.5 million-strong Turkish community.
The debate first heated up in August when Thilo Sarrazin, a senior official at Germany's central bank, said that "no immigrant group other than Muslims is so strongly connected with claims on the welfare state and crime". Mr Sarrazin has since resigned.
Such recent strong anti-immigration feelings from mainstream politicians come amid an anger in Germany about high unemployment, even if the economy is growing faster than those of its rivals, our correspondent says.
He adds that there also seems to be a new strident tone in the country, perhaps leading to less reticence about no-go-areas of the past.
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@Frank said in European Politics:
OMG- this is a YUGE admission on the part of the queen of the liberals - Merkel.
Who would have thought?
Has common sense prevailed or is she just trying to protect her and her party's position?
Probably the latter.Did you check the date on that article?
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@antipodean said in European Politics:
@Frank said in European Politics:
OMG- this is a YUGE admission on the part of the queen of the liberals - Merkel.
Who would have thought?
Has common sense prevailed or is she just trying to protect her and her party's position?
Probably the latter.Did you check the date on that article?
Ha ha....fuck......no
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@Frank said in European Politics:
@antipodean said in European Politics:
@Frank said in European Politics:
OMG- this is a YUGE admission on the part of the queen of the liberals - Merkel.
Who would have thought?
Has common sense prevailed or is she just trying to protect her and her party's position?
Probably the latter.Did you check the date on that article?
Ha ha....fuck......no
had to get the outrage post as quick as possible aye!
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@Frank said in European Politics:
@antipodean said in European Politics:
@Frank said in European Politics:
OMG- this is a YUGE admission on the part of the queen of the liberals - Merkel.
Who would have thought?
Has common sense prevailed or is she just trying to protect her and her party's position?
Probably the latter.Did you check the date on that article?
Ha ha....fuck......no
It does make you wonder what made her change her tune on immigration so much. Douglas Murray talks about her initial anti-immigrant stance at the start of his 'Strange death of Europe'. What makes someone go from that to 'Lets bring in all of the third world..what could possibly go wrong?'
Controversial opinion but I don't like the idea of childless politicians calling shots as big as that.
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@Rembrandt said in European Politics:
@Frank said in European Politics:
@antipodean said in European Politics:
@Frank said in European Politics:
OMG- this is a YUGE admission on the part of the queen of the liberals - Merkel.
Who would have thought?
Has common sense prevailed or is she just trying to protect her and her party's position?
Probably the latter.Did you check the date on that article?
Ha ha....fuck......no
It does make you wonder what made her change her tune on immigration so much. Douglas Murray talks about her initial anti-immigrant stance at the start of his 'Strange death of Europe'. What makes someone go from that to 'Lets bring in all of the third world..what could possibly go wrong?'
Controversial opinion but I don't like the idea of childless politicians calling shots as big as that.
What has being childless got to do with it?
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@JC Skin in the game. I'd like to think when you have kids you get a different perspective on what sort of world you would like to leave behind when you are gone. Your life becomes less about you and more about them right at an almost instinctual level. Controversial I know because had she had kids I'm sure they'd be totally fine in some sort of upper class gated community.
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@Rembrandt said in European Politics:
@JC Skin in the game. I'd like to think when you have kids you get a different perspective on what sort of world you would like to leave behind when you are gone. Your life becomes less about you and more about them right at an almost instinctual level. Controversial I know because had she had kids I'm sure they'd be totally fine in some sort of upper class gated community.
So on top of the heartache that goes with our not being able to have kids I should tell my wife she is not to be trusted with making good and altruistic decisions?
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@JC Nicely put and sorry that you don't have the choice.
I chose not to have kids, partly because it was altruistic and the planet is over populated, also because I don't like them (kidding, sort of). It was also altruistic in that one of me is enough, I am told quite regularly.
Red Beard made a similar comment about "selfish" people who chose not to have kids on here about a decade ago, and I have never forgotten it. Some of the most self absorbed people that I know are parents, and really shouldn't have been allowed to be.
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@JC obviously this isn't a personal insult to you or your wife or anyone else who can't have or don't want kids. I'm also not saying everyone who does have kids is altruistic and everyone who doesn't is selfish. I'm also childless, I recognise in myself that the overwhelming driver in my actions is for myself (and there is nothing wrong with that), sometimes that driver is to do good things for others which might be looked at as altruistic however often that results in appreciation from others or a good feeling within myself which in turn could be looked on as ultimately self-serving..I don't know for sure. When I've seen my close friends have children I see a huge change in how they look at life and their priorities, also just to note my friends are not young parents nor are they crackheads etc.
Merkel made an extremely suspicious total U-turn on an issue which has changed the course of Germany perhaps negatively and perhaps forever, I'm questioning her motivation here.
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You chose not to have kids because of over population? I wish more people like you made choices like you..... I fully support your choice. The world needs more little me's than little you's.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in European Politics:
You chose not to have kids because of over population? I wish more people like you made choices like you..... I fully support your choice. The world needs more little me's than little you's.
Yes, as I said, partly. Comprehension not your forte?
Insulting type aren't you. How are your kids manners?
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@Snowy said in European Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in European Politics:
You chose not to have kids because of over population? I wish more people like you made choices like you..... I fully support your choice. The world needs more little me's than little you's.
Yes, as I said, partly. Comprehension not your forte?
Insulting type aren't you. How are your kids manners?
Jeez.... I was just supporting your choice not to breed. I appreciate you sharing your virtue and doing your bit to save the world. So many people don't have kids due to not being able to, or because they just don't like kids. Someone choosing to not breed to save the world is just so much more virtue signalling and interesting.
I guess some people just think having kids or not having kids is not a virtue.. -
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in European Politics:
@Snowy said in European Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in European Politics:
You chose not to have kids because of over population? I wish more people like you made choices like you..... I fully support your choice. The world needs more little me's than little you's.
Yes, as I said, partly. Comprehension not your forte?
Insulting type aren't you. How are your kids manners?
Jeez.... I was just supporting your choice not to breed. I appreciate you sharing your virtue and doing your bit to save the world. So many people don't have kids due to not being able to, or because they just don't like kids. Someone choosing to not breed to save the world is just so much more virtue signalling and interesting.
I guess some people just think having kids or not having kids is not a virtue..Fair enough to sentence one.
As for virtue fck off, not my style.
Saving the world? Yeah into that, in spite of not wanting the kids that I would leave it to.
I actually like animals more than people (which is being proven to be correct by this conversation), and would like some of them left before I die, but I guess that is virtue signalling.@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in European Politics:
I guess some people just think having kids or not having kids is not a virtue..
Do you have an opinion on that? I don't, people can do whatever they like. The whole virtue thing is bullshit.
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@Snowy said in European Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in European Politics:
@Snowy said in European Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in European Politics:
You chose not to have kids because of over population? I wish more people like you made choices like you..... I fully support your choice. The world needs more little me's than little you's.
Yes, as I said, partly. Comprehension not your forte?
Insulting type aren't you. How are your kids manners?
Jeez.... I was just supporting your choice not to breed. I appreciate you sharing your virtue and doing your bit to save the world. So many people don't have kids due to not being able to, or because they just don't like kids. Someone choosing to not breed to save the world is just so much more virtue signalling and interesting.
I guess some people just think having kids or not having kids is not a virtue..Fair enough to sentence one.
As for virtue fck off, not my style.
Saving the world? Yeah into that, in spite of not wanting the kids that I would leave it to.
I actually like animals more than people (which is being proven to be correct by this conversation), and would like some of them left before I die, but I guess that is virtue signalling.@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in European Politics:
I guess some people just think having kids or not having kids is not a virtue..
Do you have an opinion on that? I don't, people can do whatever they like. The whole virtue thing is bullshit.
I think having kids or not having kids is absolutely NOT a virtue. There is never anything virtuous about having kids, there is never anything virtuous about not having kids.
Not having kids does basically nothing to save the planet, in fact a strong argument could be made towards the opposite.