Jeffrey Epstein
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@Crucial said in Jeffrey Epstein:
Apart from being a sleaze and probably lying about it what has Prince Andrew actually done that was illegal?
In most of the news and commentaries, criminality is barely mentioned, if at all. I suspect Liz didn’t shitcan her boy from Buckingham Palace because she was worried he did anything “illegal,” but mostly that he consorted with a convicted sex offender who trafficked girls as sex slaves, which is dragging her royal family’s name through the mud. Fairly straightforward.
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@Crucial Yep only evidence I've heard is victim interviews who confirm that Jeffrey's paedo antics were a very open secret, not exactly hard evidence at this stage.
I'd like to think that if you have a teen daughter you should be even more sensitive to 60 year old creepy men getting massaged by teens or even just hanging out with them at parties. I mean that should be a given anyway but even a creep who has a kid might start to think 'what if that was my daughter' and realise just how dodgy these situations were.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Jeffrey Epstein:
@Crucial said in Jeffrey Epstein:
Apart from being a sleaze and probably lying about it what has Prince Andrew actually done that was illegal?
In most of the news and commentaries, criminality is barely mentioned, if at all. I suspect Liz didn’t shitcan her boy from Buckingham Palace because she was worried he did anything “illegal,” but mostly that he consorted with a convicted sex offender who trafficked girls as sex slaves, which is dragging her royal family’s name through the mud. Fairly straightforward.
I get all that, just don't get why he is being judged as if he has committed a criminal act when (on the face of it) he may have had sex with a young woman of legal age. Can't claim adultery as good reason either (it is hardly uncommon).
Yes it isn't behaviour befitting someone in a public position but it is way OTT (unless evidence that he knew about coercion and trafficking arises).
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@Crucial said in Jeffrey Epstein:
I get all that, just don't get why he is being judged as if he has committed a criminal act when (on the face of it) he may have had sex with a young woman of legal age. Can't claim adultery as good reason either (it is hardly uncommon).
So, Her Royal Majesty is overreacting, is she?
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Jeffrey Epstein:
@Crucial said in Jeffrey Epstein:
I get all that, just don't get why he is being judged as if he has committed a criminal act when (on the face of it) he may have had sex with a young woman of legal age. Can't claim adultery as good reason either (it is hardly uncommon).
So, Her Royal Majesty is overreacting, is she?
Not sure anyone knows how the Queens is reacting. What we can comment on is the media reporting of it and there's a substantial amount of it.
From what I've read the only issue is he maintained a relationship with Epstein, staying at his house for days after his conviction.
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Coincidences.
Surveillance footage outside of Jeffrey Epstein’s cell during suicide attempt is missing
NOTE: This isn’t the missing video from the “successful” “suicide” where the video cameras mysteriously malfunctioned; this is the earlier “unsuccessful” “suicide” “attempt.”
I like the part where they were so concerned about his safety, they locked him up with a choirboy:
“Assistant U.S. Attorney Jason Swergold admitted nobody can find the footage of the outside of the cell the multimillionaire perv shared with accused quadruple murderer Nick Tartaglione during a hearing in White Plains District Court. Tartaglione, a former Briarcliff Manor cop, faces the death penalty for the alleged murders in a drug deal gone bad.”
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CBS 60 Minutes did a feature on Jeffrey’s suicide tonight; they showed autopsy photos. What surprised me was they mentioned the guard who found Epstein’s body still hasn’t spoken to investigators. The piece did mention the guards fell asleep, and maybe Jeffrey was dead for two hours (!!) before they woke up. Sleeping gas?? This has all the earmarks of a Batman episode...
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The “accidents” and “mistakes” and “coincidences” just keep piling up.
NBC News reporting this afternoon: Federal prosecutors say that video taken from outside of Jeffrey Epstein's cell the night of his FIRST suicide attempt in July has been permanently deleted because MCC saved video from the wrong tier of the jail and not the tier Epstein was on, a filing says.
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@Salacious-Crumb it is utterly mental isn't it!! It just keeps coming and coming. I wonder if anyone has looked at their historic error rates for storage/tracking of CCTV footage. Wouldn't surprise me if they had a near perfect record before this shambles.
Wonder what went through Epstein's mind when he was first introduced to his roomy
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@Paekakboyz said in Jeffrey Epstein:
Wonder what went through Epstein's mind when he was first introduced to his roomy
A screwdriver?
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New evidence shows Jeffrey Epstein sexually abused and trafficked hundreds of young women and girls on his private Caribbean island, some as recently as 2018, significantly expanding the scope of his alleged conduct, a top law enforcement official said in a lawsuit filed on Wednesday.
Mr. Epstein, a wealthy financier who died by suicide in a Manhattan jail last year, was bringing girls as young as 11 and 12 to his secluded estate in the Virgin Islands, known as Little Saint James, and kept a computerized database to track the availability and movements of women and girls, the lawsuit said.
The lawsuit, which was filed by Denise N. George, the attorney general of the Virgin Islands, broadened the dimensions of the wrongdoing in which Mr. Epstein was said to have engaged. He had been charged by Manhattan prosecutors in July with sexually exploiting dozens of women and girls in New York and Florida, but they did not point to any actions beyond 2005.
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They are going to run out of royals soon. Philip isn't well, the Queen is no spring chicken,
Harry we all know about, Andrew won't be taking on a larger role.So, Charles (even he's in his seventies I think) and William left. Going to be some empty column inches in newspapers, which I see as a good thing.
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@Snowy said in Jeffrey Epstein:
They are going to run out of royals soon. Philip isn't well, the Queen is no spring chicken,
Harry we all know about, Andrew won't be taking on a larger role.So, Charles (even he's in his seventies I think) and William left. Going to be some empty column inches in newspapers, which I see as a good thing.
Andrew's children might be interested. Not sure about Anne and Edward or their children, but there are options out there.