Black Lives Matter
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@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
@voodoo wait, are you saying that if you'd died making one of those mistakes you'd hope someone halfway around the world who has no link to you at all would give a shit?
Not someone, everyone. I'm not expecting a fucking eulogy or a letter to my mum, but my death, if told to them, should elicit a response closer to "shame, I feel for his family", rather than "what a cock for doing that, I couldn't care less that he died"
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@Rembrandt said in Black Lives Matter:
The difference between this attempt to burn the world down and previous attempts is that now academic control to the extremists is almost total
Also the internet.
Whereas before you had limited access to information compared to now, you had to understand, think about and critique stuff. Now you just search for stuff which reinforces your prejudices and/or use a poorly written book you agree with and quote them as your sources.
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@Siam said in Black Lives Matter:
@ACT-Crusader said in Black Lives Matter:
I am not against action and people informing themselves about this and parents, families and communities having a discussion and debate. But this is very disappointing and does nothing to educate or even ‘help the cause’. It’s irresponsible and a classic case of over reach.
I wonder how many know this about the cause?
"Black Lives Matter has a key goal internationally of defunding the police, the movement says on its U.S. website. "
Woke
Wake the fuck up
Sleepwalking through this
This is the Zombie Apocalypse
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So, racial profiling etc here is high profile again due to Bianca Williams being stopped / searched.
I'm not even torn on this one.
Drive a blacked out nice car through a high-violent crime area is a dangerous way (fled from police on wrong side of the road apparently) and you think the police have no right to demand you get out of your car for a stop and search? The video that's gone viral shows Bianca acting hysterically with the police being extremely firm but also fair IMHO. She's clearly taking advantage of everything that's going on here.
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@MajorRage said in Black Lives Matter:
So, racial profiling etc here is high profile again due to Bianca Williams being stopped / searched.
I'm not even torn on this one.
Drive a blacked out nice car through a high-violent crime area is a dangerous way (fled from police on wrong side of the road apparently) and you think the police have no right to demand you get out of your car for a stop and search? The video that's gone viral shows Bianca acting hysterically with the police being extremely firm but also fair IMHO. She's clearly taking advantage of everything that's going on here.
the article i saw only said it was a Black car, not a blacked out one. Also said they had been driving down narrow roads where you have to straddle the centerline
might be more complicated than you make it sound
unless there was a report of a crime identifying that make and model of car...what were they looking for?
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@MajorRage I saw that a little bit differently, basically because the police didn’t seem to have any probable cause for stopping them apart from apparently being able to smell cannabis. I think they have a point when they ask why they were stopped when a white person in a similar situation wouldn’t. If the police can back up their actions with stats that demonstrate they do stop people who look like me in the same circumstances I’ll happily get back in my box, but let’s just say I’m doubtful.
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@JC I've been pulled aside by officers twice in one week over here before - granted not in a car and I don't recall being searched other than opening my bag to show what's inside. One was in jeans/hoody/beanie the next I was wearing a suit. And no, I wasn't sporting a fro (and the rat's tail would have been inside my shirt).
So yeah, I own a suit.
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@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
@JC I've been pulled aside by officers twice in one week over here before - granted not in a car and I don't recall being searched other than opening my bag to show what's inside. One was in jeans/hoody/beanie the next I was wearing a suit. And no, I wasn't sporting a fro (and the rat's tail would have been inside my shirt).
So yeah, I own a suit.
So they thought you were a suit thief?
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@JC said in Black Lives Matter:
@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
@JC I've been pulled aside by officers twice in one week over here before - granted not in a car and I don't recall being searched other than opening my bag to show what's inside. One was in jeans/hoody/beanie the next I was wearing a suit. And no, I wasn't sporting a fro (and the rat's tail would have been inside my shirt).
So yeah, I own a suit.
So they thought you were a suit thief?
I think my eyebrow(s) gave away my heritage.
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@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
@JC said in Black Lives Matter:
@Bones Also you do realise your hairstylings are a crime in their own right, yeah?
Aren't you a ginger?
I’m offended by this, ragtop
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@MN5 said in Black Lives Matter:
@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
@JC said in Black Lives Matter:
@Bones Also you do realise your hairstylings are a crime in their own right, yeah?
Aren't you a ginger?
I’m offended by this, ragtop
Just because you can't seem to find a beanie to fit over your head, no need to take it out on me.
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@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
@MN5 said in Black Lives Matter:
@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
@JC said in Black Lives Matter:
@Bones Also you do realise your hairstylings are a crime in their own right, yeah?
Aren't you a ginger?
I’m offended by this, ragtop
Just because you can't seem to find a beanie to fit over your head, no need to take it out on me.
#scottishswedesmatter
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@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
@JC said in Black Lives Matter:
@Bones Also you do realise your hairstylings are a crime in their own right, yeah?
Aren't you a ginger?
You. Are. Dead. To. Me.
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@JC said in Black Lives Matter:
@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
@JC said in Black Lives Matter:
@Bones Also you do realise your hairstylings are a crime in their own right, yeah?
Aren't you a ginger?
You. Are. Dead. To. Me.
It's ok, you can carry the partial gene. The rainbow of colours between my hair and beard drives the ladies wild.
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@JC said in Black Lives Matter:
@MajorRage I saw that a little bit differently, basically because the police didn’t seem to have any probable cause for stopping them apart from apparently being able to smell cannabis. I think they have a point when they ask why they were stopped when a white person in a similar situation wouldn’t. If the police can back up their actions with stats that demonstrate they do stop people who look like me in the same circumstances I’ll happily get back in my box, but let’s just say I’m doubtful.
This is a direct quote from The Met in the Guardian:
"The Metropolitan police alleged the vehicle had been driving suspiciously, including driving on the wrong side of the road. The force said officers indicated for the vehicle to stop but it failed to do so and made off “at speed”."
So a gangster looking car, in a high-violent crime area does the above, and the police are just expected to look the other way? Do we want London to end up like a wire-style Baltimore, or the police to do their best to try and control the streets?
Bianca denying they were doing nothing wrong and the thin streets of London why they were on the wrong side of the road, is he-says, she says only and can then be offset against the Met's view they had been driving suspiciously. So lets remove that evidence. Now you just have a gangster looking car taking off at speed when indicated to stop by the Police.
What should the police do then?
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@MajorRage said in Black Lives Matter:
@JC said in Black Lives Matter:
@MajorRage I saw that a little bit differently, basically because the police didn’t seem to have any probable cause for stopping them apart from apparently being able to smell cannabis. I think they have a point when they ask why they were stopped when a white person in a similar situation wouldn’t. If the police can back up their actions with stats that demonstrate they do stop people who look like me in the same circumstances I’ll happily get back in my box, but let’s just say I’m doubtful.
This is a direct quote from The Met in the Guardian:
"The Metropolitan police alleged the vehicle had been driving suspiciously, including driving on the wrong side of the road. The force said officers indicated for the vehicle to stop but it failed to do so and made off “at speed”."
So a gangster looking car, in a high-violent crime area does the above, and the police are just expected to look the other way? Do we want London to end up like a wire-style Baltimore, or the police to do their best to try and control the streets?
Bianca denying they were doing nothing wrong and the thin streets of London why they were on the wrong side of the road, is he-says, she says only and can then be offset against the Met's view they had been driving suspiciously. So lets remove that evidence. Now you just have a gangster looking car taking off at speed when indicated to stop by the Police.
What should the police do then?
that premise ignores the reason for wanting them to pull over in the first place
and "gangster" is subjective and unhelpful
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@MajorRage is it a "gangster-looking" car though? I would've thought gangster's would rather be inconspicuous.
Probably looks like the kinda car you might find a small bag of weed in for personal use, but not one you're gonna find anything major in I reckon.