Black Lives Matter
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Black Lives Matter:
@MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:
On a mate's facebook page
I'm not racist, you know that, my gran was black.
Teaching people what they should know goes both ways.
We've had to forget that we were once the slaves of the Romans, then the bloody Vikings, and white people are still being sold as slaves today.
African countries are still selling black people today. ISIS and Al-Qaeda gain a lot of revenue from this activity. Don't hear of people wagging fingers at them.
Slavery was made legal through a law suit brought to a Virginia court by a black slave owner. At least 10 of the first 20 slave owners in America were black.
Yep. From my OU studies, I recall some of the most vociferous opposition to the abolition of slavery came from the African potentates who were raiding their enemies and kidnapping people to sell. They petitioned Parliament & the King to keep slavery going.
The other common (and current) myth is that "capitalism & the free market" was responsible for slavery. One of the most powerful arguments used by abolitionists against slavery was that it is the opposite of a free market, was inefficient, costly and stopped capitalism from operating properly. Much of the opposition to abolition actually came from the churches
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@pakman said in Black Lives Matter:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Black Lives Matter:
@MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:
On a mate's facebook page
I'm not racist, you know that, my gran was black.
Teaching people what they should know goes both ways.
We've had to forget that we were once the slaves of the Romans, then the bloody Vikings, and white people are still being sold as slaves today.
African countries are still selling black people today. ISIS and Al-Qaeda gain a lot of revenue from this activity. Don't hear of people wagging fingers at them.
Slavery was made legal through a law suit brought to a Virginia court by a black slave owner. At least 10 of the first 20 slave owners in America were black.
Yep. From my OU studies, I recall some of the most vociferous opposition to the abolition of slavery came from the African potentates who were raiding their enemies and kidnapping people to sell. They petitioned Parliament & the King to keep slavery going.
The other common (and current) myth is that "capitalism & the free market" was responsible for slavery. One of the most powerful arguments used by abolitionists against slavery was that it is the opposite of a free market, was inefficient, costly and stopped capitalism from operating properly. Much of the opposition to abolition actually came from the churches
So where's my Italian apology?
And it appears that Western Europeans did slavery better?
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@MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:
And it appears that Western Europeans did slavery better?
One of things which hit me was how the slaves were better looked after than the slave-ship crews or the average southern state American as they were the more valuable commodities.
I actually found that the most horrific thing about slavery - that people's welfare depended almost solely on how much they could fetch at auction or bolster the market value of a plantation.
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@MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:
So where's my Italian apology?
Dunno about Italian, but a good friend of mine is a Sikh. Ran an IT department
One of his favourite sayings when systems went down used to be "These systems were here long before I arrived - you'll be blaming me for the Black Hole of Calcutta next..." We all smiled.
Sadly, we've become way too rcailly defensive now.
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@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
12? Jebus.
Actually don't have a problem with this - as long as the age of the boy is put into context.
It's when the police visit people at work and warn them to "check their thinking" for expressing a legitimate opinion on Twitter that it get's worrying.
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Wait...are they racist or just arseholes? Stop reporting on them doing nasty things to people and not citing the colour of these people, it's confusing and unfair!
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Interesting take on proceedings
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Gone in 86,400 seconds
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@MiketheSnow unknown artist tries to make name for himself, succeeds.
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@Dice said in Black Lives Matter:
Quite sad to see the police just watch and do nothing as this guy gets bullied.
The bald chick repeating, ''shame on you'', cracks me up for some reason though.
Gary McFarlane first class cu*t playing the race card.
Roles reversed and white man verbally and physically stops black man's legal right to peaceful public protest and the airwaves and ether would have gone in to meltdown.
Same with the gobby 'blonde' 'i have no interest in what you want to say', pushing and shoving knowing she's got a free play.
Ignorant bullies come in all colours and both sexes.
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A good example of how SJWs have wormed their way into previously highly thought of neutral institutions.
AP says it will capitalize Black but not white
After changing its usage rules last month to capitalize the word “Black” when used in the context of race and culture, The Associated Press on Monday said it would not do the same for “white.”
The AP said white people in general have much less shared history and culture, and don’t have the experience of being discriminated against because of skin color.
Protests following the death of George Floyd, which led to discussions of policing and Confederate symbols, also prompted many news organizations to examine their own practices and staffing. The Associated Press, whose Stylebook is widely influential in the industry, announced June 19 it would make Black uppercase.
In some ways, the decision over “white” has been more ticklish. The National Association of Black Journalists and some Black scholars have said white should be capitalized, too.
“We agree that white people’s skin color plays into systemic inequalities and injustices, and we want our journalism to robustly explore these problems,” John Daniszewski, the AP’s vice president for standards, said in a memo to staff Monday. “But capitalizing the term white, as is done by white supremacists, risks subtly conveying legitimacy to such beliefs.”
Columbia Journalism Review, the Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, USA Today, the Los Angeles Times, NBC News and Chicago Tribune are among the organizations that have recently said they would capitalize Black but have not done so for white.
“White doesn’t represent a shared culture and history in the way Black does,” The New York Times said on July 5 in explaining its decision.
CNN, Fox News and The San Diego Union-Tribune said they will give white the uppercase, noting it was consistent with Black, Asian, Latino and other ethnic groups. Fox cited NABJ’s advice.
CBS News said it would capitalize white, although not when referring to white supremacists, white nationalists or white privilege.
Some proponents believe that keeping white lowercase is actually anti-Black, saying it perpetuates the idea that whites are the default race.
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“Whiteness remains invisible, and as is the case with all power structures, its invisibility does crucial work to maintain its power,” wrote Eve Ewing, a sociologist of race and education at the University of Chicago who said she’s changed her mind on the issue over the past two years.“In maintaining the pretense of its invisibility, whiteness maintains the pretense of its inevitability, and its innocence,” she wrote on the website Nora.
Kwame Anthony Appiah, a philosophy professor at New York University, wrote in the Atlantic that capitalizing white would take power away from racists, since their similar use “would no longer be a provocative defiance of the norm.”
The AP checked with a variety of experts and sources in making its decision.
“We will closely watch how usage and thought evolves, and will periodically review our decision,” Daniszewski said.