Coronavirus - Australia
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Odd last few posts. Mariner pours his guts out and NTA offers all sorts of sexual innuendo around getting a Covid test.
All intertwined, with occasional cross over.
Freaks.
You're not reading it right. The innuendo is suffocating - remember it's m4l.
Really strange sort of a time in Tourism. The first shutdown we were racing around shutting down, sorting out financiers, trying to help employees, trying to **wrap our heads** around JobKeeper. Then it was all about how to keep people at least a little bit busy, and **perform some maintenance** and **polish** on the parks. Then it was how to re-open before we knew it. We have had an interim bit where we have been open, but not many through the doors, but with optimism that it should continue to get better as the southern states came on line. Talk of travel bubbles with NZ, Japan, and Korea were glimmers of hope, especially if Aus continued to be a safe looking destination. Then Victoria. And we just knew what was coming. Victoria being blocked was inevitable. Sydney was **a proper blow**, and after that the closing of the borders to the whole of NSW was both unsurprising, and in a small way a positive (people from the South East can't **pop down** to Byron). Now? We sat in a meeting today and spelled it out. There will not be a domestic **boom** for us in 2020 at all, in fact we will **barely** see a tourist from down South. The next positive we could see is maybe Easter next year. But more likely this time next year. That's 11 months from now. 11 months before we will see any **meaningful turnover**. 11 months where our remaining 180 staff have to muddle along at ever-reducing JobKeeper amounts. 11 months where we open because it is better to scrape a few hundred a day than nothing. The way the rest of the World is looking, International tourism is still 18 months away, at the earliest. So we are looking at 2022 before we start to see any "normal" **activity**. And even then, **what does it look like**? And there is nothing we can do about any of it. Nothing we do makes one iota of a difference to our situation. We've done all the **slashing** and burning it's possible to do. We survive as **long** as the Government keeps paying our bills. And with 1 in 5 jobs in Cairns being either in, or supporting, Tourism it's not like all of these people can go and do something else. Strange, and very depressing times.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Strange, and very depressing times.
Mate that is fucking horrid.
Queenslanders need to do what is happening here and support the locals. I do think that it is going to get worse though. The more people out of work will remove any spending, even locally. A long road out for most of us.
Enjoy the time with your kids and the new puppy (she/ he will cheer you up too).
I'm still actually really busy, and the wife is in the middle of her busy season. So there isn't even more time for that other stuff.
I'm monitoring costs and wages. Applying for Government assistance. Sitting in depressing meetings. Keeping the Bank in the loop.
We have a saving grace, in that our bus wholesale business is still going ahead, and the Electric city buses are starting to kick some goals. It's what is keeping us from throwing our hands in the air and saying "fuck it"
Oh, and i am still trying to get money out of debtors, and dealing with agents who seem to think there won't be any changes to the terms of business. That's always fun.
Consequently, my personal financial situation continues unchanged for now, which i realise is a massive massive blessing. And makes me feel like a piece of shit with some of the decisions i am forced to make.
What is it you do? Between being hit by tourism and bus comments I’m rather curious .... and lost!
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Australia:
The innuendo is suffocating -
Innuendo being an Italian suppository, and suffocating, means you that you are putting it in the wrong place.
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Freaks.
You've been here for about 20 years and this just occurred to you?
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Innuendo being an Italian suppository, and suffocating, means you that you are putting it in the wrong place.
Or am I...maybe it fell out...
I think that we should finish this at this juncture.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Bones said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Innuendo being an Italian suppository, and suffocating, means you that you are putting it in the wrong place.
Or am I...maybe it fell out...
I think that we should finish this at this juncture.
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Test was negative! Still feel like shit tho.
My wife had her 3rd covid test yesterday . 2 were compulsory as part of hotel q, the 3rd a bonus because she somehow picked up a cold while quarantined - fucking explain that!!!
Anyway she now has the blue police-issued wristband on, which states that as of 4pm tomorrow she can walk out the door. Happy days.
Not so luck the lady next door who is part of the same cohort. She needs to get back to WA, and because there are no flights available within 48hrs of her departure, will have to, wait for it.......
.....quarantine for another 2 weeks in WA when she arrives....
Imagine being told that on Day 13 of your sentence, fucked if that wouldn't just break you!!!
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Victoria (but read the comments so there is some resistance)
The children must behave. Wear a mask and stay at home or else.
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And I thought this must be an exaggeration until the watched the above video. Does anyone on here know anyone from Melbourne. Deaths in Victoria is 147 (that's not thousands) out of 6.3 million
A friend summarized the situation for me: Police may now enter anyone’s home without a warrant. Curfew 8:00pm. $1,652 fine if outside without “a valid reason” – an amount being raised by the day Can’t visit any family or friends. $200 fine for no mask (mandatory masks at all times). Can only exercise once per day, for up to 1 hour. Only one person per household, per day can leave the house (including for groceries). Can’t go more than 3 miles from your home. Weddings are illegal. No gatherings of any size. Army is on the streets fining/arresting people. “Since March 21, a total of 193,740 spot checks have been conducted by police across Victoria.” Protests/activism is illegal; people have already been arrested for peaceful gatherings. Media is EXTREMELY biased, calls protesters “right wing conspiracy nutjobs” and won’t allow discussion of whether these lockdowns are right or not. Several thousand people were placed under house arrest and unable to leave for ANY reason, with food rations delivered by the army, leading to appalling levels of personal trauma. Australia won’t release how many fines they’ve given out, but an ABC news report says it’s over $5.2 million so far. Streets of Melbourne are empty, even in a city of 5 million+ people. People are HATEFUL to each other, everyone is cannibalising their neighbours (calling police to report any little infraction of the rules and turning on each other like some socialist hellhole). Billboards outside on the street that say in capital letters: “WHAT ARE YOU DOING? STAY HOME.” They feel extremely oppressive, like we’re being yelled at by a very oppressive government. The Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews shows complete and utter disdain for us, constantly blaming us. He’s blamed children (yes, really) for not taking this seriously enough. Every chance he gets, he tells us it’s OUR fault the virus is spreading (even though that’s what viruses do – they spread). It’s not just the Victorian Premier – the Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison is just as terrible. He’s encouraged all of this, and he was responsible for the first lockdown. 1984 dystopian language: billboards everywhere saying “Staying apart keeps us together.” Have they gone mad? There’s probably more but at this point I honestly lost track of all the insanity that’s happened. All because 147 people died in the state of Victoria (total population is 6.359 million), almost all of the deaths are over 70 with comorbidities, same as everywhere else in the world.
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Army is on the streets fining/arresting people.
Untrue. The Army has no powers a normal citizen doesn't have.
I'd also ignore what Americans write about how Victorians are feeling.
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Does anyone on here know anyone from Melbourne.
Yes. And those people are sick of entitled, ignorant piston wristed gibbons who think they're "Sovereign Citizens" or that the virus is a hoax or that African Gangs are holding the entire city hostage.
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Does anyone on here know anyone from Melbourne.
Yes. And those people are sick of entitled, ignorant piston wristed gibbons who think they're "Sovereign Citizens" or that the virus is a hoax or that African Gangs are holding the entire city hostage.
So are you and your contacts OK with this (surely it must be an exaggeration)
-Curfew 8:00pm. -$1,652 fine if outside without “a valid reason” – an amount being raised by the day -Can’t visit any family or friends. -$200 fine for no mask (mandatory masks at all times). -Can only exercise once per day, for up to 1 hour. -Only one person per household, per day can leave the house (including for groceries). -Can’t go more than 3 miles from your home. -Weddings are illegal.
etc etc
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Australia:
So are you and your contacts OK with this (surely it must be an exaggeration)
They're not thrilled with it, but a lot of the people I know in Melbourne are not pointing the finger at the government alone.
Society - and our legal system - operates on the lowest common denominator, and a small percentage of people aren't acting like responsible adults. If fines, curfews, and limited movement is the price to pay for 4 weeks then the people I know are prepared to deal with it.
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - Australia:
So are you and your contacts OK with this (surely it must be an exaggeration)
They're not thrilled with it, but a lot of the people I know in Melbourne are not pointing the finger at the government alone.
Society - and our legal system - operates on the lowest common denominator, and a small percentage of people aren't acting like responsible adults. If fines, curfews, and limited movement is the price to pay for 4 weeks then the people I know are prepared to deal with it.
My sister is there and she said during level 3 lockdown people were taking the piss and not even trying to adhere to the guidelines. They were in her opinion far less compliant than the first wave and that is why numbers did not go down and they find themselves in level 4. Depending on people to do the right thing is fanciful. And dangerous
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I’m in melbourne, everyone I know wishes we didn’t have to do what’s happening, would much rather be out living something close to a normal life but is doing as directed and taking things seriously
Much more blame/hate to those that stuff up the good work from the first lock down than anything else
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Does anyone on here know anyone from Melbourne.
My brother is on lockdown in Melbourne with 3 kids - one of whom has Aspergers. He's a real family man who can handle large amounts of noise, but his wife is certainly suffering. They accept it is what they have to do, and I think my brother kind of likes it because he is such a homebody. He said he'll be asking if he can work more from home in the future,
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - Australia:
So are you and your contacts OK with this (surely it must be an exaggeration)
They're not thrilled with it, but a lot of the people I know in Melbourne are not pointing the finger at the government alone.
Society - and our legal system - operates on the lowest common denominator, and a small percentage of people aren't acting like responsible adults. If fines, curfews, and limited movement is the price to pay for 4 weeks then the people I know are prepared to deal with it.
Maybe the should be. Its a heavy handed approach that very likely won't work. And this
All because 147 people died in the state of Victoria (total population is 6.359 million), almost all of the deaths are over 70 with comorbidities, same as everywhere else in the world.
Why not protect the vulnerable and let the rest get on with their life
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@NTA said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - Australia:
So are you and your contacts OK with this (surely it must be an exaggeration)
They're not thrilled with it, but a lot of the people I know in Melbourne are not pointing the finger at the government alone.
Society - and our legal system - operates on the lowest common denominator, and a small percentage of people aren't acting like responsible adults. If fines, curfews, and limited movement is the price to pay for 4 weeks then the people I know are prepared to deal with it.
Maybe the should be. Its a heavy handed approach that very likely won't work. And this
All because 147 people died in the state of Victoria (total population is 6.359 million), almost all of the deaths are over 70 with comorbidities, same as everywhere else in the world.
Why not protect the vulnerable and let the rest get on with their life
And those that have spread this thing, those that have tested positive and still gone out are blameless?