Coronavirus - New Zealand
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However Shoaib Akhtar doesn’t agree with me.
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@JC What a fucking wankstain. Shoaib, you really think that we should let your Covid infected players just wander around, shut down our economy and ruin what we have already suffered for? Obey the rules and this wouldn't have happened.
Fuck off and take your team with you.
"“If I was in their place, I would have given a statement saying that if New Zealand Cricket aren't happy, we won't play them and will bring our team back and we won't play against you for five years.”
There will be some upset bookies.
”You are talking about Pakistan - the greatest country on the planet - so behave yourself and stop giving such statement."
HAhahahahahaahahahahahhaha. I've been to the greatest country on the planet too many times, the only plus when I did, was to lose weight for a few days.
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Fuck up Shoaib you cocksmoker
I would have thought a prerequisite for a great country was their country's national team being able to play, you know, in their home country.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Fuck up Shoaib you cocksmoker
I would have thought a prerequisite for a great country was their country's national team being able to play, you know, in their home country.
Exactly. They tried to blow up our team when we were there, now they are trying to infect our country with the dreaded lurgy. fluffybunnies.
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@JC said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Of course getting sent home is a bit a sore point for Shaoib. And he has form for not thinking rules apply to him.
Drugs, ball tampering, sledging / foul language, criticing the greatest country on the planet's cricket board. He certainly has some history as a complete knob.
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Yeah cool, let's send them back and cost NZ cricket millions of revenue.
Then, when they're gone we will still have 6 figured salary quarantine officials who can't do their fucken job!
Who is in charge of testing and quarantine? Why could they move about? Was there a plan before they arrived to test and isolate?
Pakis were dumb sure, but someone in NZ authority was dumber.
By all means kill the fox that got in but then you better look very carefully at the guard dog!
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I think it would be fair to expect that international professional sportmen should be able to adhere to some simple rules.
Stay in your room isn't too bloody difficult.
Well you patently think wrong. As well as every other breach of quarantine, (the sole defence from external transmission) in the world.
The authorities come up with a plan to stop an existential threat to the country and then rely on the detainees to carry it out? That's a shit strategy right there.
The wording on every quarantine order clearly states detainment by the government through laws.This is primarily the fault of the detainers not the detainees.
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@Snowy i don't think they are stuck in their rooms, more they are to isolate in their bubbles...
@Siam they can fuck right off, we got pissed at kiwi morons too, we can be pissed at foreigners not abiding by rule, Pakistani cricket should be the ones coming down on them for being absolute fluffybunnies.
I'd be blaming the ABs if they did this overseas not someone else.
It isn't a prison either, there is some self responsibility given they know the rules
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@Siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I think it would be fair to expect that international professional sportmen should be able to adhere to some simple rules.
Stay in your room isn't too bloody difficult.
Well you patently think wrong. As well as every other breach of quarantine, (the sole defence from external transmission) in the world.
The authorities come up with a plan to stop an existential threat to the country and then rely on the detainees to carry it out? That's a shit strategy right there.
The wording on every quarantine order clearly states detainment by the government through laws.This is primarily the fault of the detainers not the detainees.
They keep using the word quarantine, but then implement these half arsed approaches.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I think it would be fair to expect that international professional sportmen should be able to adhere to some simple rules.
Stay in your room isn't too bloody difficult.
Well you patently think wrong. As well as every other breach of quarantine, (the sole defence from external transmission) in the world.
The authorities come up with a plan to stop an existential threat to the country and then rely on the detainees to carry it out? That's a shit strategy right there.
The wording on every quarantine order clearly states detainment by the government through laws.This is primarily the fault of the detainers not the detainees.
They keep using the word quarantine, but then implement these half arsed approaches.
I may have misunderstood but they use the terms 'isolation' and 'quarantine' seperately.
You go into isolation and THEN get transferred to quarantine if you test positive. The two don't mix. -
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I think it would be fair to expect that international professional sportmen should be able to adhere to some simple rules.
Stay in your room isn't too bloody difficult.
Well you patently think wrong. As well as every other breach of quarantine, (the sole defence from external transmission) in the world.
The authorities come up with a plan to stop an existential threat to the country and then rely on the detainees to carry it out? That's a shit strategy right there.
The wording on every quarantine order clearly states detainment by the government through laws.This is primarily the fault of the detainers not the detainees.
They keep using the word quarantine, but then implement these half arsed approaches.
So, the ENTIRE strategy to save thousands of NZ lives relies FUNDAMENTALLY on 2 dozen temporary overseas visitors choosing (or not) to follow some rules.
That's it?
Our systems make us totally reliant on the conduct of visiting non new Zealanders?
We totally rely on their behaviour to save our lives and indeed NZ as a country.
And that's ok?
Time to start holding these salaried authorities accountable rather than yelling "dickhead" everytime our quarantine gets breached in the most ridiculous manner
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@Siam i guess they over estimated the sense of a professional sporting organisation and players being privileged enough to travel to a country free of covid to adhere to some rules for 14 days in order to keep it that way.
The heat should be coming from the Pakistani cricket on their players.
Sure our systems aren't perfect, but short of shutting our borders completely they will never be, at some point these fluffybunnies need to take some responsibility on themselves.
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@taniwharugby fair point but agree to disagree. As the host nation to invite others in, the onus is on us to ensure this doesn't happen and I believe we should be capable of that.
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@Siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I think it would be fair to expect that international professional sportmen should be able to adhere to some simple rules.
Stay in your room isn't too bloody difficult.
Well you patently think wrong. As well as every other breach of quarantine, (the sole defence from external transmission) in the world.
The authorities come up with a plan to stop an existential threat to the country and then rely on the detainees to carry it out? That's a shit strategy right there.
The wording on every quarantine order clearly states detainment by the government through laws.This is primarily the fault of the detainers not the detainees.
So what do the authorities do? You seem to think that incoming visitors should not take any personal responsibility to play by the rules? Im sure you would be similarly up in arms if we simply locked people up for 2 weeks instead, because that's the only way to be sure
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@canefan no, I agree with 2 week lock up if the threat is deemed as it is.
Every lockdown scare or actuality in Oz and nz has been because of porous quarantine. I want that done properly.Now, obviously mate I didn't read the article but with all the calls to "deport" them I figured they'd done something to endanger nz 🙂.
What i do object to is the sliding scale of existential threat being displayed on both sides of the Ta$man. It's almost like the authorities don't know precisely what they're doing.
And I definitely don't think that personal responsibility of arrivees is any consideration at all.
The buck stops with the authorities, not the public. Fines and demanding detention shifts the onus -
@Siam they are not the public though, this situation is different.
You are invited somewhere, you abide by the rules.
These guys are in a privileged position and would have been briefed on the rules that I expect they all agreed to.
Sure what it sounds like they did wasn't huge and risk to the public, but jeez, grown men paid a lot of money to play sport.
You say NZ should supply people to stand outside the door of every single player and tour member to ensure they don't break rules, I say there is a massive amount of personal responsibility too, this isn't a class of kids.