Brussels Bombing
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="567535" data-time="1459032537">
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<p>When you have weak and gutless appeasers in charge?</p>
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<p>Court system in a lot of Western Nations has shortcomings. But when you've also got lawyers itching to make some money, you're going to get some shit results.</p>
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<p>The guy who did the Sydney Siege was under investigation, but due to various law enforcement and criminal justice proceedings fell through crack after crack.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Haron_Monis'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Haron_Monis</a></p>
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<p>Quotes from that entry:</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;">On 10 November 2009, Monis appeared in court and claimed through his lawyers to be a peace activist. He later chained himself to the courthouse in protest over the charges.</span><sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Haron_Monis#cite_note-57'>[57]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> Monis was subsequently barred by the courts from expanding his protest to include letters to </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK' title="UK">UK</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> soldiers' families.</span><sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Haron_Monis#cite_note-58'>[58]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> In an inquest, lawyer Chris Murphy said that Monis claimed to be contacting families to recruit "people who had suffered loss in war" to join his cause. Murphy said "He didn't strike me as very intelligent." Monis chained himself to the courthouse against the directions of lawyers, and Murphy said "He was entirely self absorbed with his performance ... my recollection is he held a pen in the air and said 'this is my sword'." Lawyers described Monis as a "pest" and a "dickhead" {/quote]</span>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Muslim' title="Australian Muslim">Australian Muslim</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> commentators said that his </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_conversion' title="Religious conversion">conversion</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> to Sunni Islam was less out of genuine religious conviction than designed to provide credibility in seeking an association with ISIL, as one "can't really claim to love IS when you're a Shiite and they're trying to exterminate you".</span><sup><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Haron_Monis#cite_note-Aly-87'>[87]</a></sup><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p>
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In Belgium?</p></blockquote>
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Yep , him and his brother were known as bad bastards before this <br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/world/europe/expanding-portraits-of-brussels-bombers-ibrahim-and-khalid-el-bakraoui.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.co.nz/">http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/world/europe/expanding-portraits-of-brussels-bombers-ibrahim-and-khalid-el-bakraoui.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.co.nz/</a> -
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<p>Yep , him and his brother were known as bad bastards before this<br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/world/europe/expanding-portraits-of-brussels-bombers-ibrahim-and-khalid-el-bakraoui.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.co.nz/">http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/world/europe/expanding-portraits-of-brussels-bombers-ibrahim-and-khalid-el-bakraoui.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.co.nz/</a></p>
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<p>Fuck's sake. I would have thought, in a nation like Belgium, where supposedly the policies are pretty strict, and gun ownership is well-documented, any sort of gun crime would be looked on quite poorly. Can't stop everyone, but should throw the book at anyone with that shit on. Particularly where they're aiming at police.</p> -
<p>Time to blame those that are to blame... and it is not the west</p>
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<p>Definitely need stronger laws on the practises of hate speech. These guys, for example, are fuckheads:</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir_(Australia)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir_(Australia)</a></p>
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<p>This sort of thing shouldn't be tolerated in a secular society. If that's what you want, then fuck off to KSA with my best wishes. See how you do there.</p> -
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Are you still unable to argue a point?</p></blockquote>
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<p>I'll set my alarm</p>
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<p>What kind of hateful nutters bomb a kids playground?<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/78304811/suicide-bomber-kills-dozens-in-pakistan-park'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/78304811/suicide-bomber-kills-dozens-in-pakistan-park</a></p>
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<p>What kind of hateful nutters bomb a kids playground?<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/78304811/suicide-bomber-kills-dozens-in-pakistan-park'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/78304811/suicide-bomber-kills-dozens-in-pakistan-park</a></p>
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<p>Islamic ones.</p> -
Lahore bombing claimed by one group, saying they were targeting Christians. <br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.smh.com.au/world/multiple-fatalities-following-explosion-at-public-park-lahore-20160327-gnrz21.html">http://www.smh.com.au/world/multiple-fatalities-following-explosion-at-public-park-lahore-20160327-gnrz21.html</a><br><br><br>
Yet saying they were sending a message to the governor:<br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><p>
The target was Christians," a spokesman for the faction, Ehsanullah Ehsan, said.<br><br>
"We want to send this message to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif that we have entered Lahore."<br><br>
"He can do what he wants but he won't be able to stop us ... our suicide bombers will continue these attacks."<br></p></blockquote> -
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<p>Predictably Neo nazis have<strong> been holding rallies </strong>and had the water cannons turned on them. No problem with the authorities doing that but I hope next time feral Muslims hold a march demanding sharia law they get the exact same treatment .</p>
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<p>You got a link for this story? I've been searching and the most recent I can find is December 2015.</p>
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<p>Ok, finally found one ... Google is odd these days.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3511398/Riot-police-water-cannons-called-far-right-protesters-hijack-Brussels-peace-march-make-Nazi-salutes-terror-victims-memorial.html'>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3511398/Riot-police-water-cannons-called-far-right-protesters-hijack-Brussels-peace-march-make-Nazi-salutes-terror-victims-memorial.html</a></p>
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<p>Looks like the bold isn't strictly correct and they "hijacked a peace march/vigil". </p> -
<p>Interesting article posted in the Herald today.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11612667'>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11612667</a></p>
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<p>Seems one of the suicide bombers was a well trained and used bomb maker. The experts generally cant understand or explain why he was used as a suicide bomber though.</p> -
<p>Saw some of the neo nazi gear this morning - bunch of white blokes moving into the area around where the memorial was set up with the piles of wasted money on flowers and such.</p>
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<p>One old white bloke tried to intervene with the young white blokes and got punched in the head for his trouble. Some of the neonazi chaps fell backward into the memorial. Up to that point the police had been trying to just keep them separate with riot shields. But understandably, they went to the water cannon from that point. Its pretty fucking tense, and all the coppers over there are stretched, and under pressure for being seen to miss the leadup to this event and Paris.</p>
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<p>Predictably Neo nazis have been holding rallies and had the water cannons turned on them. No problem with the authorities doing that but I hope next time feral Muslims hold a march demanding sharia law they get the exact same treatment .</p>
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<p>Fuck yes. If anyone comes down the main street of my city preaching hate then send them packing.</p>
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<p>Problem is, if you overreact, they take it as a sign of legitimacy. You can ask for Sharia Law all you want - go do it in an empty stadium somewhere (pay the appropriate hire fee) and shout your little heart out.</p> -
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<p>Seriously, fuck religious extremists. Let's throw all them sacks of shit into a feral lion pit and see how fucking brave they are.</p>
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<p>They're not human anymore, and shouldn't be treated as such.</p>
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<p>I reserve my ire for the ones who actually kill the vast VAST majority. Islamic</p> -
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<p>Not even a little ire for anyone else? At all?</p>
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<p>In this context no, I find it just western appeasement when people refuse to criticize Islam specifically and instead blame all religion. </p>