Coronavirus - UK
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@rapido said in Coronavirus - UK:
UK doing a big bank re-opening on July 19, even no restricitions on sports attendance. TBH, I thought that news would be what was on this thread .... not Lamda! had never heard of it!
Apparently, worldwide, we're up to iota (according to Coronacast yesterday).
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@rapido said in Coronavirus - UK:
UK doing a big bank re-opening on July 19, even no restricitions on sports attendance. TBH, I thought that news would be what was on this thread .... not Lamda! had never heard of it!
Apparently, worldwide, we're up to iota (according to Coronacast yesterday).
Umai Haque is an anagram for ‘you’re a hack’
The most glaring mistake in this piece is England is removing restrictions on 19 July not Britain
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@rapido said in Coronavirus - UK:
UK doing a big bank re-opening on July 19, even no restricitions on sports attendance. TBH, I thought that news would be what was on this thread .... not Lamda! had never heard of it!
Apparently, worldwide, we're up to iota (according to Coronacast yesterday).
Umai Haque is an anagram for ‘you’re a hack’
The most glaring mistake in this piece is England is removing restrictions on 19 July not Britain
Think you quoted the wrong post?
And I had to think about that for too long ...
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@rapido said in Coronavirus - UK:
UK doing a big bank re-opening on July 19, even no restricitions on sports attendance. TBH, I thought that news would be what was on this thread .... not Lamda! had never heard of it!
Apparently, worldwide, we're up to iota (according to Coronacast yesterday).
Umai Haque is an anagram for ‘you’re a hack’
The most glaring mistake in this piece is England is removing restrictions on 19 July not Britain
Think you quoted the wrong post?
And I had to think about that for too long ...
It's the author's name of the dribbling shit piece linked by @nzzp
Mindless fools focus on the cases, not what the effect of those cases are. It would be a very different story if the hospitals were about to become overwhelmed and people dying everywhere. But they're vaccinated...
I swear some people just love drama and being a catastrophist when you were already an agoraphobe who could work from home is heaven to these halfwits.
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@rapido said in Coronavirus - UK:
UK doing a big bank re-opening on July 19, even no restricitions on sports attendance. TBH, I thought that news would be what was on this thread .... not Lamda! had never heard of it!
Apparently, worldwide, we're up to iota (according to Coronacast yesterday).
Umai Haque is an anagram for ‘you’re a hack’
The most glaring mistake in this piece is England is removing restrictions on 19 July not Britain
Think you quoted the wrong post?
And I had to think about that for too long ...
Yeah sorry
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@rapido said in Coronavirus - UK:
UK doing a big bank re-opening on July 19, even no restricitions on sports attendance. TBH, I thought that news would be what was on this thread .... not Lamda! had never heard of it!
Apparently, worldwide, we're up to iota (according to Coronacast yesterday).
Umai Haque is an anagram for ‘you’re a hack’
The most glaring mistake in this piece is England is removing restrictions on 19 July not Britain
Think you quoted the wrong post?
And I had to think about that for too long ...
It's the author's name of the dribbling shit piece linked by @nzzp
Mindless fools focus on the cases, not what the effect of those cases are. It would be a very different story if the hospitals were about to become overwhelmed and people dying everywhere. But they're vaccinated...
I swear some people just love drama and being a catastrophist when you were already an agoraphobe who could work from home is heaven to these halfwits.
You do realise I understood that one was not an aactual anagram of the other, it just took me a few seconds to compare and confirm?
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Fascinating poll in The Economist on attitudes to Lockdown in the UK. Thought @MiketheSnow might find it interesting.
Some Britons crave permanent pandemic lockdown While the government prepares for “Freedom Day”, some Britons favour lasting curbs Boris johnson can often channel John Bull, a ruddy cartoon figure from Georgian England. He personified the liberty-loving English yeoman, in opposition to Napoleonic tyranny. Announcing England’s first pandemic lockdown in March 2020, Mr Johnson lamented “taking away the ancient, inalienable right of free-born people of the United Kingdom to go to the pub”. Government behavioural scientists warned that Britons would defy even modest restrictions, and fretted about disorder and looting. Bull. For 16 months Britons have complied dutifully and, for the most part, uncomplainingly. But on July 19th Mr Johnson will scrap nearly all the remaining anti-covid measures in England. Nightclubs will reopen, capacity caps will be lifted on restaurants and masks will no longer be mandatory. The tabloids have dubbed it “Freedom Day”. Conservative mps are overjoyed; many Britons are not. Polling by Ipsos mori for The Economist suggests two-thirds think masks, social distancing and travel restrictions should continue for another month (see chart). A majority would support them until covid-19 is controlled worldwide, which may take years. Even more strikingly, a sizeable minority would like personal freedoms to be restricted permanently. A quarter say nightclubs and casinos should never reopen; almost two in ten would support an indefinite ban on leaving home after 10pm “without good reason”.
Some caution is hardly surprising. Cases are rising fast and may reach 100,000 a day, according to Sajid Javid, the health secretary. That would be nearly twice as many as at the peak of the winter wave. Sir Keir Starmer, the opposition leader, calls the removal of restrictions “reckless”. Yet Britain’s exceptionally high vaccination rate will limit the rise in hospital admissions and deaths. Vaccination has driven covid-19’s fatality rate down from 0.8% of estimated infections to below 0.1%, the same as for seasonal flu. Unlocking now will mean the increase in covid-19 infections comes before winter, when flu picks up. Schools, where much transmission happens, are about to go on holiday. Public willingness to sacrifice for the common good in a time of crisis has surprised ministers. One insider says he has changed his mind on whether Britons would volunteer for war: “I’d always assumed that if my generation was shown the Kitchener poster, they’d say: ‘No chance, mate’.” But the pandemic has also revealed John Bull’s authoritarian streak. Many Britons did not go out dancing or drinking, or take overseas holidays, even before the pandemic. Nightclubs, casinos and dark streets harbour all sorts of wrongdoers. For some, it seems, endless lockdown is an acceptable price for everyone else staying home.
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@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
Fascinating poll in The Economist on attitudes to Lockdown in the UK. Thought @MiketheSnow might find it interesting.
Some Britons crave permanent pandemic lockdown While the government prepares for “Freedom Day”, some Britons favour lasting curbs Boris johnson can often channel John Bull, a ruddy cartoon figure from Georgian England. He personified the liberty-loving English yeoman, in opposition to Napoleonic tyranny. Announcing England’s first pandemic lockdown in March 2020, Mr Johnson lamented “taking away the ancient, inalienable right of free-born people of the United Kingdom to go to the pub”. Government behavioural scientists warned that Britons would defy even modest restrictions, and fretted about disorder and looting. Bull. For 16 months Britons have complied dutifully and, for the most part, uncomplainingly. But on July 19th Mr Johnson will scrap nearly all the remaining anti-covid measures in England. Nightclubs will reopen, capacity caps will be lifted on restaurants and masks will no longer be mandatory. The tabloids have dubbed it “Freedom Day”. Conservative mps are overjoyed; many Britons are not. Polling by Ipsos mori for The Economist suggests two-thirds think masks, social distancing and travel restrictions should continue for another month (see chart). A majority would support them until covid-19 is controlled worldwide, which may take years. Even more strikingly, a sizeable minority would like personal freedoms to be restricted permanently. A quarter say nightclubs and casinos should never reopen; almost two in ten would support an indefinite ban on leaving home after 10pm “without good reason”.
Some caution is hardly surprising. Cases are rising fast and may reach 100,000 a day, according to Sajid Javid, the health secretary. That would be nearly twice as many as at the peak of the winter wave. Sir Keir Starmer, the opposition leader, calls the removal of restrictions “reckless”. Yet Britain’s exceptionally high vaccination rate will limit the rise in hospital admissions and deaths. Vaccination has driven covid-19’s fatality rate down from 0.8% of estimated infections to below 0.1%, the same as for seasonal flu. Unlocking now will mean the increase in covid-19 infections comes before winter, when flu picks up. Schools, where much transmission happens, are about to go on holiday. Public willingness to sacrifice for the common good in a time of crisis has surprised ministers. One insider says he has changed his mind on whether Britons would volunteer for war: “I’d always assumed that if my generation was shown the Kitchener poster, they’d say: ‘No chance, mate’.” But the pandemic has also revealed John Bull’s authoritarian streak. Many Britons did not go out dancing or drinking, or take overseas holidays, even before the pandemic. Nightclubs, casinos and dark streets harbour all sorts of wrongdoers. For some, it seems, endless lockdown is an acceptable price for everyone else staying home.
This is NOT my Britain
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@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
No option to say fuck it just let all stop on July 19th? That might have been interesting but not particularly useful to this article.
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I'm just staggered that over 30% want permanent social distancing in Pubs, Restaurants, checking-in and nearly 20% want a 10pm curfew.
I do wonder if it was a rogue poll, but it's been commissioned by a from pretty reputable organisations.
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
This is NOT my Britain
You can always leave your mask behind when you cross the Wye...
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I struggle to see how meaningful those sort o poles are. If they're based on percentages and the percentages don't add up you'd have to ask yourself percentage of what? Take the wearing of masks question - 70% say put off for a month, 65% say until it's under control and 40% say forever. As the figures add up to more than 100% the big question is what are those percentages actually based on? Is it more complicated than that? If so why is it illustrated so simply?
Or am I missing something blindingly obvious?
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@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
Or am I missing something blindingly obvious?
Possibly. I think the question being asked is:
"Should masks be worn in shops and public transport for a months after July 19?. Yes or no?" 70% say yes
"Should masks be worn in shops and public transport until Covid is under control?. Yes or no?" 62% say yes
"Should masks be worn in shops and public transport permanently?. Yes or no?" 40% say yes
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@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
This is NOT my Britain
You can always leave your mask behind when you cross the Wye...
North Sea en route to Hokkaido fingers crossed
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So in each case there were no options?
Seems a good way of proving a pre-conceived point but not a good way to illustrate what people would really elect for if given a choice.
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TBF, I think the poll was to test the public's view on what level of restrictions they would accept under different scenarios
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@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
I'm just staggered that over 30% want permanent social distancing in Pubs, Restaurants, checking-in and nearly 20% want a 10pm curfew.
I do wonder if it was a rogue poll, but it's been commissioned by a from pretty reputable organisations.
I am 100% behind social distancing everywhere, all the time.
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@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
I'm just staggered that over 30% want permanent social distancing in Pubs, Restaurants, checking-in and nearly 20% want a 10pm curfew.
I do wonder if it was a rogue poll, but it's been commissioned by a from pretty reputable organisations.
It would be interesting to see the community breakdown of this discrepancy.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
I'm just staggered that over 30% want permanent social distancing in Pubs, Restaurants, checking-in and nearly 20% want a 10pm curfew.
I do wonder if it was a rogue poll, but it's been commissioned by a from pretty reputable organisations.
It would be interesting to see the community breakdown of this discrepancy.
Not sure if one of the categories would be 'taking the piss' or 'people happy that their significant other isn't at the pub all the time.