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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    Based on this I can't see how France wins the World Cup. They look like us, speed on the game but with no apparent purpose. Guys getting the ball in bad positions. Poor kicking. Bailed out by some nice heads up individual play.

    Ireland on the other hand, when their attack falls in a hole, they fall back on good defence and good kicking. They are also fit. That's good tournament footy.

    Ireland are kissed on the dick by the whistle too. They don't spend a lot of time on their feet at the ruck. Doris was huge and deserved MotM, and I loved how he pushed barnes at every opportunity.

    Ireland short favs I think.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Ireland v France 6N:

    @Jailbreak7 said in Ireland v France 6N:

    If we could channel a mix of ABs 2015 and 2011 vintage wed be ok...

    I'd be really worried about facing these two teams with an AB 2021 vintage, but the last 3-4 AB games have me thinking we can beat these two teams.

    Maybe not on consecutive WE's and we still have some fragility, but so do the teams today - esp. France.

    Agree basically.

    Ireland clear No.1 team at the moment, but they aren't so clearly dominant like England '03, ABs '11, '15 (and some other years I forget).

    Think a number of teams line up against each other with close to 50/50 chances.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #178

    Found the 2nd half boring by the way. This is rugby's issue. Game went to pieces and the best plays for like 25 minutes were kicks.

    Purists probably loved it. Fans of both sides liked the game in the balance. As a neutral there was little to get excited about as both teams played trench warfare.

    Ireland didn't care, they were in front, and played professionally. France were just a bit shit. Entertain me FFS.

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by KiwiMurph
    #179

    @mariner4life on the flip side the first half (and early second half) was brilliant to watch

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    @KiwiMurph said in Ireland v France 6N:

    @mariner4life on the flip side the first half (and early second half) was brilliant to watch

    First half was bloody good. Each team forced in to errors that the other side made use of, a couple of great tries, really good stuff.

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    Reading through the comments we all had different commentators but they were just as biased. In NZ we had the Irish homer (Robinson?), who is basically the Paddy version of TJ.

    As to the match, Ireland were worthy winners. France looked directionless at times.

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    That excellent long range France try showed why playing “wild” can make Ireland look lost. Ireland are so well structured on attack, defence and transition that sometimes a bounce pass or piece of unexpected throws their shape into disarray.
    It’s a scary tactic to play though and carries no guarantees.

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    @Crucial said in Ireland v France 6N:

    That excellent long range France try showed why playing “wild” can make Ireland look lost. Ireland are so well structured on attack, defence and transition that sometimes a bounce pass or piece of unexpected throws their shape into disarray.
    It’s a scary tactic to play though and carries no guarantees.

    The main talking point of the last 2 weeks is how to beat France. The match had a 46 minute ball in play time which is incredibly high. Ireland and Italy both kept the ball in play and kept the massive French pack moving. France had few lineouts in both games, mainly from penalties. They were physically spent by the 60 minute mark allowing ireland to keep possession easily and pin them back.

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    #184

    @Bones Was Brendon Pickerall the TMO…?

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    @Steven-Harris said in Ireland v France 6N:

    @Bones Was Brendon Pickerall the TMO…?

    Don't think it was Pickerell, I thought it was a welshman.

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    @booboo said in Ireland v France 6N:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Ireland v France 6N:

    @Jailbreak7 said in Ireland v France 6N:

    If we could channel a mix of ABs 2015 and 2011 vintage wed be ok...

    I'd be really worried about facing these two teams with an AB 2021 vintage, but the last 3-4 AB games have me thinking we can beat these two teams.

    Maybe not on consecutive WE's and we still have some fragility, but so do the teams today - esp. France.

    Agree basically.

    Ireland clear No.1 team at the moment, but they aren't so clearly dominant like England '03, ABs '11, '15 (and some other years I forget).

    Think a number of teams line up against each other with close to 50/50 chances.

    Poss. momentum is going to be key - particularly for France. Be interesting to see how these two go against Scotland and England

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    @Steven-Harris said in Ireland v France 6N:

    @Bones Was Brendon Pickerall the TMO…?

    Pickerill was the TMO. Based on the angles we were shown I had no problem with his decision.

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    @Bovidae the front on angle showed his foot scraping the ground for me. A few minutes later he "clearly" saw direct contact to the head from one brief showing of one angle, where the point of contact was only visible from the opposite side.

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    @The-Irishman said in Ireland v France 6N:

    @Bones said in Ireland v France 6N:

    @Jailbreak7 said in Ireland v France 6N:

    Was contact not made on the shoulder

    Tmo is fucked. Clear shoulder to head? Nothing of the sort moron

    @Bones said in Ireland v France 6N:

    @Jailbreak7 said in Ireland v France 6N:

    Was contact not made on the shoulder

    Tmo is fucked. Clear shoulder to head? Nothing of the sort moron

    Most blatant red card I've ever fucking seen. The player was practically unconscious. Get your blinkers checked.

    I'm sure all Porter wants is consistency from Barnes eh.

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    @Bones I've seen a shot from in front and behind of that try and I'm confused as to wtf Pickerill was looking at.

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    #192

    Ireland kicking was better. Especially into the corners. Dunno why France dumped jaminet for ramos. Ramos just can field kick well.

    Ireland got the rub of Barnes there they won’t have town in France.

    Irekand have some really world class players. Their hooker (injured this week) & Doris are right up there.

    France were on a 14 match streak, loss will help them imo.

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    Not sure I agree with much of this, BUT I do think had the ref been different the ruck might have been quite a problem for Irish:

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    @pakman Ireland do seem to live a charmed life when it comes to head contact - on both sides of the ball. Even the way Sexdoll jumps to make a tackle doesn't seem to have resulted in anything.

    Must be that cloak you wear when you're number one.

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    replied to Bones on last edited by
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    @Bones said in Ireland v France 6N:

    @pakman Ireland do seem to live a charmed life when it comes to head contact - on both sides of the ball. Even the way Sexdoll jumps to make a tackle doesn't seem to have resulted in anything.

    Must be that cloak you wear when you're number one.

    This 100%

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