Crusaders v Sunwolves



  • Crusaders team to play the Sunwolves. Wyatt Crockett getting the start to set a new Super Rugby caps record!

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  • Interesting, I'd have thought that the Crusaders would give the wider squad a shot at the Sunwolves.

    Great milestone for Wyatt. Deserved recognition as a servant of New Zealand rugby.



  • @antipodean There are a few WTG players in this line-up, but they also seem to use this game to bring some players back from injury, such as Read, Mo'unga, Tamanivalu and Jack Goodhue, who haven't played for a while or not at all yet this season. Considering the games that are still to be played, that makes sense?



  • I'd say a big reason for the team named above is the fact the bye week for the Crusaders was last week so the frontliners just got a week off - plus they have the Stormers next week so having players have 2 weeks off and then have to front against an undefeated team is probably not a great recipe, especially when you've got players coming back into the side from injury this week, better to use this week to form combinations for next week than chopping and changing.



  • @KiwiMurph Hmm, but several first choice of players are not in this squad, not even in the reserves .. (Taylor, Franks, Barrett, Taufua, and also Hall). As far as I know, none of these players is injured. Four WTG players on the bench though (Makalio, Jager, Strange, Fukofuka) and several players starting, who normally come off the bench.



  • Don't see the need to play Whitelock against one of the weakest teams in the comp. He's already played every minute of the season so far. Could have done with an extra week's rest.



  • I reckon they've got that selection just about perfect. Yeah, you could've rested Whitelock but maybe he's there for stability/consistency so that team run about 30 points in the first 30 minutes and then he can take a seat.

    The last thing you want with a banana skin game is to get stunned early and not have a figurehead there to correct things. Although, Kieran Read should be able to do that regardless of his freshness.



  • Hang on, the Sunwolves are a banana skin game? Are you serious? If they lose to that rabble they should volunteer themselves to be cut from the comp out of sheer embarrassment.



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    From Kyodo News:
    Rugby: Quirk back to lead much changed Sunwolves against Crusaders

    Ed Quirk returns from injury and will lead the Sunwolves against the Crusaders
    
    The Australian-born flanker leads a side that shows eight changes from the team that started last Saturday's win over South Africa's Bulls.
    

    Tiatia:

    "We ... are very aware of what lies ahead this Friday night against the Crusaders."
    
    Tiatia's 23-man squad contains two players set to make their Super Rugby debut, wing Teruya Goto and reserve flanker Yuhimaru Mimura.
    
    "I understand one of my roles is to tackle my opponents as many times as possible, and I will be focusing on that," said Mimura ...
    

    No kidding!
    If you understand what's coming at you on Friday, why select two rookies?



  • I like that lineup. Good mix of in-form and young/returning players.

    Hopefully we can play with accuracy and secure a bonus point win.

    If those returning players put in good performances, next week's selections will be really interesting.



  • @ACT-Crusader said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    Hopefully we can play with accuracy and secure a bonus point win.

    haha, if any team in NZ cannot secure a BP Win v these guys they deserve to be flogged!

    Only thing in SW favour is weather isn't looking ideal, but still wont be enough.



  • @Stargazer said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

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    From Kyodo News:
    Rugby: Quirk back to lead much changed Sunwolves against Crusaders

    Ed Quirk returns from injury and will lead the Sunwolves against the Crusaders
    
    The Australian-born flanker leads a side that shows eight changes from the team that started last Saturday's win over South Africa's Bulls.
    

    Tiatia:

    "We ... are very aware of what lies ahead this Friday night against the Crusaders."
    
    Tiatia's 23-man squad contains two players set to make their Super Rugby debut, wing Teruya Goto and reserve flanker Yuhimaru Mimura.
    
    "I understand one of my roles is to tackle my opponents as many times as possible, and I will be focusing on that," said Mimura ...
    

    No kidding!
    If you understand what's coming at you on Friday, why select two rookies?

    Martin Guptill on the blindside flank for some big hits. Good to see.



  • @MN5 said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    @Stargazer said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

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    From Kyodo News:
    Rugby: Quirk back to lead much changed Sunwolves against Crusaders

    Ed Quirk returns from injury and will lead the Sunwolves against the Crusaders
    
    The Australian-born flanker leads a side that shows eight changes from the team that started last Saturday's win over South Africa's Bulls.
    

    Tiatia:

    "We ... are very aware of what lies ahead this Friday night against the Crusaders."
    
    Tiatia's 23-man squad contains two players set to make their Super Rugby debut, wing Teruya Goto and reserve flanker Yuhimaru Mimura.
    
    "I understand one of my roles is to tackle my opponents as many times as possible, and I will be focusing on that," said Mimura ...
    

    No kidding!
    If you understand what's coming at you on Friday, why select two rookies?

    Martin Guptill on the blindside flank for some big hits. Good to see.

    Nah looks more like a cold ass honky.



  • Well done Sunwolves destroying Crusaders maul. Hubris for not taking three points this early in the game punished.



  • Sam Wykes up there eh?



  • @antipodean think they're probably pretty safe with over 80% territory and two thirds possession...



  • @Bones said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    @antipodean think they're probably pretty safe with over 80% territory and two thirds possession...

    Bro, up early for a Super game in which the Canes aren't even playing?

    #dedicated



  • Best thing about this game so far is the tab 1st try special



  • Not bad, the nephew.



  • Tim Bateman speaks well, for a guy who just played 40 mins of footy!

    Mounga might be ticking up my most points pick with his continued missed kicks.. sort it out lad!



  • End of the 1st half - Mataele with a hat-trick, 5 tries in total 29-3.
    Read, Mo'unga look on track, nice touches from Goodhue, Funnell has been busy, Romano and Sammy W involved in everything and all industry. Bloody Tamanivalu injured again - HIA I think. Up until then he looked good.
    Mataele has been on the end of very good tries - don't know much about him - how good is he?



  • @MN5 two things on your continued "up early for rugby" crusade.

    A.) 8.30 isn't early.

    1. I'm not a canes supporter.


  • @Bones said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    @MN5 two things on your continued "up early for rugby" crusade.

    A.) 8.30 isn't early.

    1. I'm not a canes supporter.

    I find the second point extremely surprising



  • At Halftime Greg Martin mentioned that it had been 'raining in the corners'



  • @MN5 said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    @Bones said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    @MN5 two things on your continued "up early for rugby" crusade.

    A.) 8.30 isn't early.

    1. I'm not a canes supporter.

    I find the second point extremely surprising

    I don't mean to alarm you, but it's 2017.



  • I know the Crusaders have scored 50 points, but they have been reasonably shit for large chunks of this game.



  • @Gunner said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    I know the Crusaders have scored 50 points, but they have been reasonably shit for large chunks of this game.

    They've been ably assisted by a Sunwolves team whose game plan appears to have been hand over the ball at every opportunity.



  • @Gunner Yep, I guess its hard to keep the foot on the throat when the opposition is clearly inferior



  • @Rocky-Rockbottom that is fucking brilliant.



  • Blues fans (and Nepia) really get bitter over TJ don't they?



  • @Bones said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    Blues fans (and Nepia) really get bitter over TJ don't they?

    I genuinely do not see why people get their undies in a twist over TJ commentating the Crusaders. If anyone can provide examples of TJ being orgasmic over the Crusaders and overly/unfairly critical of the Blues please do.



  • @Crazy-Horse ditto, the last few times I've heard he's on I've gone out of my way to try and spot the source of outrage but come up empty. If anything I've thought he's sounded more excited for blues matches.



  • @Crazy-Horse @Bones me three



  • Yeah i can't say i have ever been able to pick any over the top bias from any of the NZ comms, except justin marshall who shouldn't be anywhere near the comm box (by the sound of it the other commentators are getting sick of his shit too).

    However when the alternatives are kearns, mardo and kafer i don't think there is much to complain about outside that idiot Marshall.

    From the game i thought all the returning guys went well. Tamanivalu looked in very good touch. Interesting to read the following. Bit of a joke when the Sunwolves 8 was allowed to play on for a few minutes after clearly being ko'd.

    http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/91594034/confusion-around-head-injury-assessment-robbed-crusaders-of-seta-tamanivalu-in-match-against-sunwolves



  • @pukunui karma for trying to bullshit his way out if a card?



  • @booboo said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    @pukunui karma for trying to bullshit his way out if a card?

    Agree, deserved what he got



  • @Bones said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    @Crazy-Horse ditto, the last few times I've heard he's on I've gone out of my way to try and spot the source of outrage but come up empty. If anything I've thought he's sounded more excited for blues matches.

    He criticises the Blues for things that all other teams do, he get far more excited when the opposition is about to score against us, and he often falls into that patronising tone "When will the Blues learn".

    Crap like that. Doesn't do it for any other team. I'm not against having biased commentators, just would like a positive one for the Blues.

    Same as the Chiefs get Cooper, Canes get Nisbett, Crusaders get TJ, etc

    I know he's polarising but give us Sumo, least he enjoys the games. Would also like Ken 'second man play' Laban.



  • I've noticed him say , with a hint of sarcasm , that it's typical blues , , or this what we have come to expect , when they make an error , it could be the first one of the night and the opposition has already made one that he didn't comment on .

    Not Sure if he is still doing it , but it is something I had picked up on in previous seasons



  • @pukunui said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    Yeah i can't say i have ever been able to pick any over the top bias from any of the NZ comms, except justin marshall who shouldn't be anywhere near the comm box (by the sound of it the other commentators are getting sick of his shit too).

    However when the alternatives are kearns, mardo and kafer i don't think there is much to complain about outside that idiot Marshall.

    From the game i thought all the returning guys went well. Tamanivalu looked in very good touch. Interesting to read the following. Bit of a joke when the Sunwolves 8 was allowed to play on for a few minutes after clearly being ko'd.

    http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/91594034/confusion-around-head-injury-assessment-robbed-crusaders-of-seta-tamanivalu-in-match-against-sunwolves

    Kearns, Marto and whoever else make Marshall sound intelligent.

    This isn't lame Aussie bashing, this is fact.



  • @Bones said in Crusaders v Sunwolves:

    Blues fans (and Nepia) really get bitter over TJ don't they?

    Hoi, I wasn't even involved in this one! I can't help it if Johnson is such a fan boy - damn, I think even Chris B thinks he's slightly over the top for all things red n black and Mako.

    No more than others get bitter over Smithy and the Magpies (and various Canes players).


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