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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Another attack in London:
@dogmeat said in Another attack in London:
Over 50 IRA bombs exploded in London in the 70's so I think anyone can justifiably say they were scared of IRA attacks. It's a personal reaction and doesn't really justify a outrageometer.
Nevertheless it is the senseless disregard for the lives of others and more particularly their own that differentiates these modern scum.
In the main IRA bomber property - although there were exceptions and definitely eschewed the suicide bombing gambitNobody said they souldnt be scared or were not scared of IRA bombs at the time. Queries were raised over the claim the IRA bombings were "far more scary"
People can be scared of whatever they like, but when they start ranking them and ISIS is not top? That is debate worthy.If I recall it wasn't a claim someone was expressing their personal feelings based on their own experience. I think there is a difference
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I don't see how you get to make a claim unless you've lived both experiences.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Another attack in London:
@canefan said in Another attack in London:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Another attack in London:
Just read that one of the guys who filmed while the attacks were taking place chided another person for yelling "fucking Muslim fluffybunnies" while he was filming. Doesn't that just say everything.
I perfectly reasonable response in the circumstances (the first one I mean)
The Somme 1916
"Die you squarehead Hun bastards."
"Pull your head in Smith. That is a gross generalisation about the appearance of Germans, not to mention insulting to those of them who have mothers."
I don't think racial or religious sensitivity would be the first thing on my mind placed in that situation
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@canefan said in Another attack in London:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Another attack in London:
@dogmeat said in Another attack in London:
Over 50 IRA bombs exploded in London in the 70's so I think anyone can justifiably say they were scared of IRA attacks. It's a personal reaction and doesn't really justify a outrageometer.
Nevertheless it is the senseless disregard for the lives of others and more particularly their own that differentiates these modern scum.
In the main IRA bomber property - although there were exceptions and definitely eschewed the suicide bombing gambitNobody said they souldnt be scared or were not scared of IRA bombs at the time. Queries were raised over the claim the IRA bombings were "far more scary"
People can be scared of whatever they like, but when they start ranking them and ISIS is not top? That is debate worthy.If I recall it wasn't a claim someone was expressing their personal feelings based on their own experience. I think there is a difference
Of course it was claim and an opinion those things are not mutually exclusive.
@Crucial said in Another attack in London:
The old IRA bombs were far more scary.
That is bloody obviously a claim and an opinion. Nobody gets to decide that there opinion should not be challenged because it is an opinion.
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@antipodean said in Another attack in London:
I don't see how you get to make a claim unless you've lived both experiences.
I think many of us on here have lived both experiences.
I was within 500 metres of a London Islamic attack and my bus to work was bombed in an IRA bombing... 6 hours before I was due to take it.
I was evacuated numerous times under both circumstances and still have the bomb threat prep sheet they used to put besides phones in case a bomb threat was made... 'bomb threat' .. lol.. how polite. ISIS wouldnt bother doing that...
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Do you ever find yourself wondering what a feminist's perspective on all this is?
Well wonder no longer my friends! No prizes for guessing what the real cause of all this is.
I've met 2 people in the last fortnight with this attitude, that scares me more than islam
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@Rembrandt said in Another attack in London:
Do you ever find yourself wondering what a feminist's perspective on all this is?
Well wonder no longer my friends! No prizes for guessing what the real cause of all this is.
I've met 2 people in the last fortnight with this attitude, that scares me more than islam
"Soldiers are paid mass murderers"
I stopped there.
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@Rembrandt said in Another attack in London:
Do you ever find yourself wondering what a feminist's perspective on all this is?
Well wonder no longer my friends! No prizes for guessing what the real cause of all this is.
I've met 2 people in the last fortnight with this attitude, that scares me more than islam
Do you mind me asking what fields/industries these people work in? I check my Facebook page about once every six months, but I farking hate people who link to political content or make politically charged comments, regardless of which side they are fapping for.
As for the IRA bombings. Not a single person said that it was not a scary or horrible period. The issue is the relevance of mentioning it in the context of the present situation. IMHO, it's about as relevant as saying that you were much more frightened during the Blitz or V1 and 2 attacks than during the IRA bombings.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback Well one I did (had a couple beers under my belt) naturally I was the bad guy and ruined an evening. The other I'm actually taking as a bit of a challenge to see if it is possible to alter an indoctrinated viewpoint. Pretty close to giving up on that approach however.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel One works with sexual abuse perpetrators. The other taking a year out from a social work qualification. Same ideals both gained through university and popular culture
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Another attack in London:
@antipodean said in Another attack in London:
I don't see how you get to make a claim unless you've lived both experiences.
I think many of us on here have lived both experiences.
I'm not making value judgements; merely pointing out if you don't have experience of both your claim is hypothetical. If you do, it's merely a personal choice.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Another attack in London:
@Rembrandt said in Another attack in London:
Do you ever find yourself wondering what a feminist's perspective on all this is?
Well wonder no longer my friends! No prizes for guessing what the real cause of all this is.
I've met 2 people in the last fortnight with this attitude, that scares me more than islam
"Soldiers are paid mass murderers"
I stopped there.
How do you not tell the people with these views to go fuck themselves?I didn't get that far ...
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@Rembrandt said in Another attack in London:
Do you ever find yourself wondering what a feminist's perspective on all this is?
Well wonder no longer my friends! No prizes for guessing what the real cause of all this is.
I've met 2 people in the last fortnight with this attitude, that scares me more than islam
Here's here linkdin page , she seems to write this sort of nonsense regularly for the expected publications.
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/janeystephenson
Of course she's cherry picked her facts to suit her story .
The San Bernardino shooting involved a woman , she had a young child too.Then there's this evil cow https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Lewthwaite
And that's before you mention the black widows https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Widow_(Chechnya)
And to lighten the mood have a good laugh at this foolish woman's expense
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@Pot-Hale I will gladly defer to your experience PH as I was only peripherally affected. I cannot speak about what it was like in Ulster, though to me the stuff that went on in mainland UK was not as indiscriminate as we are seeing now. But as I said, I doubt that is relevant to those that have been killed.
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@Frank said in Another attack in London:
I suppose this is old news, but I was unaware of this.
Does anyone think the London Mayor might not be the best defender of London - given his past.Most of those are people he represented as a lawyer, lawyers often hang out with scum through their work.
Other muslims don't seem to happy with him.
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Melbourne yesterday, Paris right now...
Notre Dame: Man shot by French police after 'terror' attack with hammer and knives
French police have shot a man outside the Notre Dame in Paris after he tried to attack them with a hammer, according to the interior ministry. He was also in possession of two knives. One policeman was lightly injured in the attack.
The main square has been evacuated and a police operation is underway. Paris police say the situation is now "under control".
Anti-terror prosecutors have launched an investigation meaning they consider the attack terror-related.
No more details, yet.
My odds:
Presbyterian 5/2
Catholic 6-1
Jehovah's Witness 10-1
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