Tasman vs North Harbour



  • Tasman Makos

    Will Jordan, Tima Faingaanuku, Trael Joass, Alex Nankivell, James Lowe, Mitch Hunt, Billy Guyton; Jordan Taufua, Pete Samu, Ethan Blackadder, Pari Pari Parkinson, Shannon Frizell, Tyrel Lomax, Andrew Makalio, Tim Perry

    Reserves: Ti'i Paulo, Siua Halanukonuka, Isaac Salmon, Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Tone Ng Shiu, Finlay Christie, Tim O'Malley, James Hawkey.


    North Harbour

    Matt Duffie, Shaun Stevenson, Matt Vaega, Shaun Treeby, Tevita Li, Ben Volavola, Chris Smylie; Josh Tyrell, Taramai Murphy, Brandon Nansen, Jarrad Hoeata, Shane Neville, Michael Tamoaieta, Steven Misa, Chris Eves

    Reserves: James Parsons, Karl Tuinukuafe, Sione Mafileo, Glenn Preston, Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Lewis Gjaltema, Dan Hilton-Jones, Bryn Gatland


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/sport/97494486/tasman-makos-look-to-bounce-back-as-hot-north-harbour-side-come-to-town



  • Lots of changes for harbour in what looks like a banana skin game to me



  • Tasman resting or otherwise missing a few as well - notably Ainley and Strange in the second row and several from outside the squad on the bench - Ng Shui, Cirikadiveta and Hawkey.

    Harbour is a team we don't have a good record against.



  • @chris-b This is indeed quite a list, but not the result of resting players:

    There are several enforced changes to the side involved in the previous match. Locks Alex Ainley and Quinten Strange are out of commission, the latter with what could be a long-term shoulder injury. Flanker Vernon Fredericks sustained a head knock against Taranaki and is also unavailable. In the backline, winger Viliami Lolohea, sent off against Taranaki, has been suspended for three games, while veteran Robbie Malneek is injured.
    


  • @jk plus NH seem to have got a few wobbles in the past few weeks, I guess oyu could still drop this game though and be sweet.



  • @taniwharugby said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    @jk plus NH seem to have got a few wobbles in the past few weeks, I guess oyu could still drop this game though and be sweet.

    Yeah think we are pretty safe from relegation



  • @jk ha I was more meaning making the top 4!



  • @stargazer Yeah - I hadn't seen any news on injuries etc, so "resting or otherwise missing".

    Tima is a decent replacement for Lolohea (who I would have dropped anyway if he wasn't suspended). Not surprised Malneek is out injured - he hobbled off right in front of us after the last play of the game looking like he'd torn a calf or similar.

    The two locks are the most significant losses - along with Aumua still being suspended.



  • Stupid ill-discipline from Harbour, giving away a penalty try. It's not surprising that Hoeata was one of the culprits. He's a penalty magnet the way he plays.



  • Christ - how's that a yellow card?

    Duffie purposefully put himself in a dangerous position.

    Bollocks!!!!!@



  • Geezus, I can't believe Joass got yellow for that. It's very similar to the Dunedin test where Retallick stood up and the Aussie player who was leaning over him fell off and landed dangerously.
    This was totally Duffie's own fault. Stupid from Nutbrown to fall for that and hand out a YC.



  • The TMO is busy tonight.



  • @stargazer think refs are over using TMOs these days, often for shit they have seen but dont want to make calls on.



  • I try not to whinge about the reffing, but that's a try saving tackle that's gone up around the neck and then Li has dived on the player on the ground.

    And all we get is a penalty.

    FFS Nutbrown and the guy running the far touchline!



  • @chris-b Doesn't sound like Harbour are going to give you much trouble anyway. 😞



  • @chris-b I actually though Li diving on the player on the ground was worse than the tackle that slipped up to the neck. Dirty.



  • @taniwharugby said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    @stargazer think refs are over using TMOs these days, often for shit they have seen but dont want to make calls on.

    Agree, nutbrown is one of the worst offenders



  • @stargazer said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    @chris-b I actually though Li diving on the player on the ground was worse than the tackle that slipped up to the neck. Dirty.

    Could easily have carded both of them and awarded a penalty try!

    We should probably be up by 35 points - but for terrible reffing.



  • Despite that we're up 21-0 and had a penalty try awarded, we've been shafted by the refereeing in this half.

    Come on Marlborough wind - do your bit and die down!!!



  • Hunt looks like a better version of Bernard Foley. This kid can play.



  • Willie Lose calling a Harbour game is just as bad as Justin Marshall calling a Canterbury game. Wish he would shut up.



  • Man - it's lucky we won that or I would have been extremely bitter. As it is, we were ripped off a bonus point and Harbour were gifted one.

    However, my main concern tonight was to avoid relegation, so job done. A bonus point would have taken us close to wrapping up a semi-final spot, so I guess Auckland and Counties fans can send Nutbrown and his sideline umpire a bouquet!!!



  • @akan004 said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    Hunt looks like a better version of Bernard Foley. This kid can play.

    Agree @akan004, I was just sitting here wondering how long he going to be happy being back up 10 at Crusaders. Also have to say young Blackadder is fast becoming one of my favourite players in ITM cup, just sat here watched him as much as possible for parts of the game and his workrate is out of this world, has he got a super contract yet?



  • @dan543 Yeah - Blackadder Jr. is going really well. Not sure whether the Crusaders have a spot for him, but someone should snap him up. He's looking a bit like a young Kieran Read. Not quite the ball handling perhaps, but most other bits.



  • Most of the Tasman guys went pretty well. Makalio, Frizell, Blackadder, Samu, Taufua, Guyton, Hunt and Jordan were all very good. A few silly penalties given away at times - not least by Captain Tim Perry - but, overall a pretty good performance and not reflected on the scoreboard.



  • @chris-b said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    Man - it's lucky we won that or I would have been extremely bitter. As it is, we were ripped off a bonus point and Harbour were gifted one.

    However, my main concern tonight was to avoid relegation, so job done. A bonus point would have taken us close to wrapping up a semi-final spot, so I guess Auckland and Counties fans can send Nutbrown and his sideline umpire a bouquet!!!

    I only saw the first half so will need to catch up on what happened but geez Nutbrown is out of his depth isn't he? Do these ex player refs get to skip all the experience gathered from years of club rugby? He just doesn't come across as confident in his own decisions at all and gives an impression of getting confused under pressure.
    Maybe it was just not a great day for him (I haven't seen a lot of him this year)



  • @chris-b said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    @stargazer said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    @chris-b I actually though Li diving on the player on the ground was worse than the tackle that slipped up to the neck. Dirty.

    Could easily have carded both of them and awarded a penalty try!

    We should probably be up by 35 points - but for terrible reffing.

    Unless the directive has changed, that should have been a PT. If a player commits a foul in the act of a try attempt he is taken out of the equation. Take away the tackler and that is a try. If you commit a foul that results in a PT it is an automatic YC.
    Nutbrown was looking at it only from the severity of the high tackle.
    I reckon PT and possibly a restart with a penalty to Tasman for the Li offence, except diving on or sliding into a player trying to score seems to be one of those things that gets ignored by all refs.



  • @crucial I'm the wrong person to ask. I completely lost faith in him and his touchie and was questioning everything! 🙂

    I might have to watch the game again once I've calmed down to see whether we really did get 35 points worth of poor calls against us!!! 🙂



  • @chris-b said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    Christ - how's that a yellow card?

    Duffie purposefully put himself in a dangerous position.

    Bollocks!!!!!@

    Different to the BBBR situation as BBBR was just tangled and wasn't expected to foresee the consequence. In this case the player knew he had someone on his back and should have realised he would likely flip them by standing up. He could have grabbed a leg.
    Unfortunately, as we have seen with the whole jumping for high kicks fiasco, players are immune from putting themselves in danger.



  • @crucial you're replying to Stargazer's point. I'm not comparing it to anything - including contesting high kicks - except other stupid refereeing decisions.



  • @chris-b said in Tasman vs North Harbour:

    @crucial you're replying to Stargazer's point. I'm not comparing it to anything - including contesting high kicks - except other stupid refereeing decisions.

    I'm trying to reply to two points really. Yours about the 'victim' putting themselves in a dangerous position and @Stargazer s one about being similar to BBBR.


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