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What are we trying to achieve here?
Incarcerated a 16 year old for sharing a video. A claim he denies. Surely we can find out from phone data?
He's out on bail with 24 hour curfew, no social media allowed, visits from counsellors every day and strict instructions that he must not play paintball.
Is this really our best strategy for fighting "terrorism" and keeping NZ "safe"?
Resources and money wisely spent?
He's either a threat ( locked up) or not.
Is a 16 year old using modern technology really a clear and present danger to the sovereign safety of New Zealand?
Well, that's the only conclusion the government is transmitting
sigh....
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so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
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@taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
They need a media blackout for the whole trial. Don't give the grub any oxygen
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@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
Anyone know why the u-turn over terrorist charges? From memory they weren't going to go down that route as it could result in more of a shit show
They haven't said I don't think. I disagree with calling it terrorism. They should reduce it to what it was, some quack with a gun
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@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
Anyone know why the u-turn over terrorist charges? From memory they weren't going to go down that route as it could result in more of a shit show
They haven't said I don't think. I disagree with calling it terrorism. They should reduce it to what it was, some quack with a gun
There's a fair number of people that believe that if the perpetrator is brown it is terrorism, if white then it's not. So I think that may have played into the decision to charge terrorism.
I kind of agree with you though, it's not easy to discern the ideology he was following as he is just all over the place and appears to be more of a troll trying to start conflict than anything else. You could call him an ethno-nationalist I guess but then he praised black people in the States so...
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surely his actions fit the definition of the word?
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims
I assume his pleading Not Guilty will fit into his 'political' ideology for the attacks?
They did mention a charge (or charges) were under the Terrorism Supression act or something.
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@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
They need a media blackout for the whole trial. Don't give the grub any oxygen
I don't know about this. They live streamed the Breivik trial in Norway. They even provided a stream with an English interpreter. It just showed him to be the nutter that he was. Reckon that may be the way to go rather than have him be this mysterious figure.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
They need a media blackout for the whole trial. Don't give the grub any oxygen
I don't know about this. They live streamed the Breivik trial in Norway. They even provided a stream with an English interpreter. It just showed him to be the nutter that he was. Reckon that may be the way to go rather than have him be this mysterious figure.
That actually sounds a good idea. This guy is not going to be the sharpest tool in the shed
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
They need a media blackout for the whole trial. Don't give the grub any oxygen
I don't know about this. They live streamed the Breivik trial in Norway. They even provided a stream with an English interpreter. It just showed him to be the nutter that he was. Reckon that may be the way to go rather than have him be this mysterious figure.
Agree 100%. Needs to be exposed for the shitcunt he is. I'm sure he'll be something of a heroic figure to a few psychos but thankfully they are in the minority.
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@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
They need a media blackout for the whole trial. Don't give the grub any oxygen
I don't know about this. They live streamed the Breivik trial in Norway. They even provided a stream with an English interpreter. It just showed him to be the nutter that he was. Reckon that may be the way to go rather than have him be this mysterious figure.
That actually sounds a good idea. This guy is not going to be the sharpest tool in the shed
Yep, honestly this media blackout and jailtime for having or distributing the video and his manifesto is only making him and his ideas infinitely more popular in the dark recesses of the internet.
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@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
They need a media blackout for the whole trial. Don't give the grub any oxygen
I don't know about this. They live streamed the Breivik trial in Norway. They even provided a stream with an English interpreter. It just showed him to be the nutter that he was. Reckon that may be the way to go rather than have him be this mysterious figure.
That actually sounds a good idea. This guy is not going to be the sharpest tool in the shed
Yep, honestly this media blackout and jailtime for having or distributing the video and his manifesto is only making him and his ideas infinitely more popular in the dark recesses of the internet.
YEah but who cares about the 'dark recesses of the internet'? Most live in the real and light world of life
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@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
They need a media blackout for the whole trial. Don't give the grub any oxygen
I don't know about this. They live streamed the Breivik trial in Norway. They even provided a stream with an English interpreter. It just showed him to be the nutter that he was. Reckon that may be the way to go rather than have him be this mysterious figure.
That actually sounds a good idea. This guy is not going to be the sharpest tool in the shed
Yep, honestly this media blackout and jailtime for having or distributing the video and his manifesto is only making him and his ideas infinitely more popular in the dark recesses of the internet.
YEah but who cares about the 'dark recesses of the internet'? Most live in the real and light world of life
We all should, Brendan Tarrant lived there.
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@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
They need a media blackout for the whole trial. Don't give the grub any oxygen
I don't know about this. They live streamed the Breivik trial in Norway. They even provided a stream with an English interpreter. It just showed him to be the nutter that he was. Reckon that may be the way to go rather than have him be this mysterious figure.
That actually sounds a good idea. This guy is not going to be the sharpest tool in the shed
Yep, honestly this media blackout and jailtime for having or distributing the video and his manifesto is only making him and his ideas infinitely more popular in the dark recesses of the internet.
YEah but who cares about the 'dark recesses of the internet'? Most live in the real and light world of life
We all should, Brendan Tarrant lived there.
What a sad sad life that would be!
Imagine pandering to those that live in the dark recesses of the net. I find that sadly hilarious
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@Rembrandt took me a several seconds to realise who that was!
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@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
They need a media blackout for the whole trial. Don't give the grub any oxygen
I don't know about this. They live streamed the Breivik trial in Norway. They even provided a stream with an English interpreter. It just showed him to be the nutter that he was. Reckon that may be the way to go rather than have him be this mysterious figure.
That actually sounds a good idea. This guy is not going to be the sharpest tool in the shed
Yep, honestly this media blackout and jailtime for having or distributing the video and his manifesto is only making him and his ideas infinitely more popular in the dark recesses of the internet.
YEah but who cares about the 'dark recesses of the internet'? Most live in the real and light world of life
We all should, Brendan Tarrant lived there.
What a sad sad life that would be!
Imagine pandering to those that live in the dark recesses of the net. I find that sadly hilarious
Nobody is pandering to anyone. It's to avoid this shit happening again.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
They need a media blackout for the whole trial. Don't give the grub any oxygen
I don't know about this. They live streamed the Breivik trial in Norway. They even provided a stream with an English interpreter. It just showed him to be the nutter that he was. Reckon that may be the way to go rather than have him be this mysterious figure.
That actually sounds a good idea. This guy is not going to be the sharpest tool in the shed
Yep, honestly this media blackout and jailtime for having or distributing the video and his manifesto is only making him and his ideas infinitely more popular in the dark recesses of the internet.
YEah but who cares about the 'dark recesses of the internet'? Most live in the real and light world of life
We all should, Brendan Tarrant lived there.
What a sad sad life that would be!
Imagine pandering to those that live in the dark recesses of the net. I find that sadly hilarious
Nobody is pandering to anyone. It's to avoid this shit happening again.
I'm easily confused. If most don't need it to be televised, why should we show it because of those that live in the dark recesses of the internet?
It's going to happen again whether or not it's televised. Awful things like that happen infrequently.
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@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
so he has plead not guilty to the 90 odd charges against him, a trial date is likely to be May next year...
They need a media blackout for the whole trial. Don't give the grub any oxygen
I don't know about this. They live streamed the Breivik trial in Norway. They even provided a stream with an English interpreter. It just showed him to be the nutter that he was. Reckon that may be the way to go rather than have him be this mysterious figure.
That actually sounds a good idea. This guy is not going to be the sharpest tool in the shed
Yep, honestly this media blackout and jailtime for having or distributing the video and his manifesto is only making him and his ideas infinitely more popular in the dark recesses of the internet.
YEah but who cares about the 'dark recesses of the internet'? Most live in the real and light world of life
We all should, Brendan Tarrant lived there.
What a sad sad life that would be!
Imagine pandering to those that live in the dark recesses of the net. I find that sadly hilarious
Nobody is pandering to anyone. It's to avoid this shit happening again.
I'm easily confused. If most don't need it to be televised, why should we show it because of those that live in the dark recesses of the internet?
It's going to happen again whether or not it's televised. Awful things like that happen infrequently.
It's already been explained. Not even going to bother.
Christchurch Gunman in Mosque