Tommy Robinson
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Good old TR, making sure British values and tradition are not lost!
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@Bones no mention of the other guy who felt TR 8 year old daughter's bum. TR says he was detaining him while police came 3 hours later, after contacting pool management. The other guy admitted groping the girl to police and tr was arrested.
What to do when a bloke gropes your daughter at a public swimming pool?
"The Police were called by Centre Parcs security staff, Tommy waited three hours for them to arrive. After the Police interviewed Tommyās wife and his daughter, they confirmed the man admitted to grabbing his daughters bum."
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@Siam Mate, God knows what the truth of this matter is but quoting TR's own website as a source is drawing a long bow.
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@Catogrande said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Siam Mate, God knows what the truth of this matter is but quoting TR's own website as a source is drawing a long bow.
There's also a video where the police state the complaint about the groping.
Considering mentioning is name in a non-negative context gets you auto-banned off of social media, his own website may seem like a long bow, but its no longer than reporters leaving out his side of the story and its the only bow the guy has left.
As much as people get off on thinking he is a mindless thug who goes around randomly bashing asian men at a childrens swimming pools logically this makes zero sense, I certainly wouldn't however put an over-reaction to an innocuous accident past him.
Hopefully there is camera footage of the incident and it can be worked out.
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Oooo ... another thread on this fella to keep a few of us entertained!
This one doesn't add up at all. I watched some of his youtube video, and that would certainly lead you to believe that the whole thing is a massive stitch up of the poor bloke. But you would have to have a serious level of belief of how much the state hates him to believe his side is spot on accurate. The police are kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place if they have loads of witnesses who can confirm Tommy smashed the guy in the face, but zero who can confirm what Tommy is accusing him of. They kind of have to arrest him, but then also do have to follow up on the accusation.
The media is printing the same story almost word for word across all publications - that he was arrested for assault and that's about it. Nothing on the other bloke.
That's pretty odd.
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Dailymail were kind enough to include this on Robinson's behalf
Robinson has said he believed the man had committed an offence
But of course they don't elaborate on what that 'offence' was. They also share pictures from the video where Tommy and the Police were discussing this offence suggesting the journalist may even have watched it but forgot to put it in the article.
The icing on the cake is the link to 'Watch the full video'. Which is a clip just cropped so as not to include the alleged groping offence.
I wish I could say this was very odd.
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@Catogrande said in Tommy Robinson:
@Siam Mate, God knows what the truth of this matter is but quoting TR's own website as a source is drawing a long bow.
I hear you but isn t quoting an msm website fraught with the same peril?
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@MajorRage said in Tommy Robinson:
Oooo ... another thread on this fella to keep a few of us entertained!
This one doesn't add up at all. I watched some of his youtube video, and that would certainly lead you to believe that the whole thing is a massive stitch up of the poor bloke. But you would have to have a serious level of belief of how much the state hates him to believe his side is spot on accurate. The police are kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place if they have loads of witnesses who can confirm Tommy smashed the guy in the face, but zero who can confirm what Tommy is accusing him of. They kind of have to arrest him, but then also do have to follow up on the accusation.
The media is printing the same story almost word for word across all publications - that he was arrested for assault and that's about it. Nothing on the other bloke.
That's pretty odd.
A bit of a flag always appears in these instances for me.
TR, ( if one bothers to look) always spouts comprehensive evidence and details from his side. This one, all you need to do is read his account.
This sets him up to be pilloried if even one detail is easily refutable. From a media point of view, highlighting his " lies" would be both easy to do and would give the story more legs. "Robinson lies about child molestation and police involvement "Yet this never happens. Media reports assault with no context or details. Robinson provides evidence stating other parties involvement in some detail but media neither denies or refutes this evidence.
Things that make you go mmmm
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You're welcome!
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@Siam said in Tommy Robinson:
@Catogrande said in Tommy Robinson:
@Siam Mate, God knows what the truth of this matter is but quoting TR's own website as a source is drawing a long bow.
I hear you but isn t quoting an msm website fraught with the same peril?
Agreed. Where to go for unbiased news has been an issue for some time. Funnily enough most msm are reasonably factual on issues that we all know about, stuff like sport for instance but have a slant on most other stuff.
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Tommy in trouble again. Elderly lady with a busted eye being harrassed by 3 gangster youths. Tommy pulls over to stop them. They attack Tommy and his car..Tommy doesn't back off and takes all 3 of them on.
Looking forward to the Guardian's article tomorrow about ex-EDL leader far right activist Stephen Yaxley Lennon (aka Tommy Robinson) indiscriminately stalking and attacking future doctor/engineer church going cub scouts.
Tommy then gives the details of the youths so I expect he will be in prison in the next 24 hours.
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Enough evidence from others to affirm what happened.
Illegal immigrant on bail punching and coughing on old ladies vs Tommy the boogeyman.
Quite the moral dilemma
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@Rembrandt Good on him. Well done TR. You'd like to see those scumbags get what they deserve.
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@Rembrandt Assuming that there wasn't two cases in the same town at the same time, it looks like the right outcome is possible.
This from the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52003543
TR not mentioned by name though.
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@Catogrande lol. Former far right EDL leader 'passer-by'...the bias is so palpable. But yes right result.
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@Rembrandt arguably the most famous non celebrity in England performs a fine civil act and they purposely leave him anonymous.
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@Siam said in Tommy Robinson:
@Rembrandt arguably the most famous non celebrity in England performs a fine civil act and they purposely leave him anonymous.
Pitiful politicizing.It amazes me how people on here think TR is really well known in the UK. He isn't.
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@Crucial his name surely is. Ask 10 people, see how many know the name. Although to back up your claim I guess you asked millions huh?
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@Crucial said in Tommy Robinson:
@Siam said in Tommy Robinson:
@Rembrandt arguably the most famous non celebrity in England performs a fine civil act and they purposely leave him anonymous.
Pitiful politicizing.It amazes me how people on here think TR is really well known in the UK. He isn't.
Then why so many articles on him when it can be spinned in a partially negative manner?
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@Rembrandt more than a million facebook followers, blanket coverage of the contempt ruling. But, very few would recognize the name Tommy Robinson in a newspaper article - bollocks
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In three recent years of living there I never once heard his name come up in conversation and even when he had gatherings in London that people noticed it was āsome protest group ā.
I think the government and media has achieved what they are trying to do pretty well and thatās to keep his messages away from general life.
Iām not arguing right or wrong just that he is way more known on the fern than anywhere else I have come across in general life.
As for āask 10 peopleā? I guess it depends on the group but I would be pretty confident that a random 10 walking out of the tube in a morning would possibly get 1 or 2 āheard ofās -
@Crucial well I guess the BBC have never heard of him either, you know the context in which this ommision takes place. But thanks for your "lived experience" anecdote
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@Siam said in Tommy Robinson:
@Crucial well I guess the BBC have never heard of him either, you know the context in which this ommision takes place. But thanks for your "lived experience" anecdote
Of course they have heard of him. Just not giving him oxygen, which goes to my point that he is not as well known publicly as you imagine.
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@Crucial said in Tommy Robinson:
@Siam said in Tommy Robinson:
@Crucial well I guess the BBC have never heard of him either, you know the context in which this ommision takes place. But thanks for your "lived experience" anecdote
Of course they have heard of him. Just not giving him oxygen, which goes to my point that he is not as well known publicly as you imagine.
The plan is ādonāt encourage himāBloke patently stands up to assault of the elderly in an extremely disgusting situation and the plan is to not encourage that bloke?
Anyone else and he'd be a hero. Imagine footage of Gary Lineker doing what TR did and being noted as a bystander (imagine any brit for that matter). You can't though because Lineker doesn't have the stones, and you've not seen the footage
. He takes on 3 blokes. Credit where credit's due.Churlish stuff from the BBC for an incident with massive public appeal and at a time when political bias has no place.
Another confidence sapping decision from the former benchmark of trustworthy and balanced broadcasting. That's all it is.
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Whoosh!
I said itās probably deliberate by the reporter (regional rag btw not some big editor).
I said the plan is to not give him oxygen.
Not sure why you are having a rant.Btw I did watch the clip and he spends so much time setting himself up and explaining what a great guy he is Iām not sure he needs the press ( if he is as famous as you say)
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@Siam said in Tommy Robinson:
@Crucial said in Tommy Robinson:
@Siam said in Tommy Robinson:
@Crucial well I guess the BBC have never heard of him either, you know the context in which this ommision takes place. But thanks for your "lived experience" anecdote
Of course they have heard of him. Just not giving him oxygen, which goes to my point that he is not as well known publicly as you imagine.
The plan is ādonāt encourage himāBloke patently stands up to assault of the elderly in an extremely disgusting situation and the plan is to not encourage that bloke?
Anyone else and he'd be a hero. Imagine footage of Gary Lineker doing what TR did and being noted as a bystander (imagine any brit for that matter). You can't though because Lineker doesn't have the stones, and you've not seen the footage
. He takes on 3 blokes. Credit where credit's due.Churlish stuff from the BBC for an incident with massive public appeal and at a time when political bias has no place.
Another confidence sapping decision from the former benchmark of trustworthy and balanced broadcasting. That's all it is.
Crucial is spot on from my observations.
People have heard of him that is true. But nobody that I know, and I seriously mean nobody, gives him a second thought. He's irrelevant. To the point that I would honestly believe that if Tommy Robinson's name was mentioned in the article, it would actually get less clicks.
Make your own inferences as you wish.
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@MajorRage you haven't seen the footage either.
If it were anybody else, that video would be edited and on news in every country.Don't get all shitty about it, you're simply commenting without seeing all that's available. That footage is tv gold and entirely topical.
The guy did a good thing, it's all simply what depersoning someone looks like. In this modern world of equality.
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@Siam said in Tommy Robinson:
@MajorRage you haven't seen the footage either.
If it were anybody else, that video would be edited and on news in every country.Don't get all shitty about it, you're simply commenting without seeing all that's available. That footage is tv gold and entirely topical.
The guy did a good thing, it's all simply what depersoning someone looks like. In this modern world of equality.
The above has no relevance to anything I wrote. Which were my observations.
You can argue anything you want fella, but you can't argue my observations, unless you are calling me a liar.
As for getting shitty ... best grab a mirror mate.
