AB Golden era?



  • LIstening to Wynne Grey on the way home and he reckons this is the best AB era ever, surpassing the 60's, 80's, only team he says comes close is the 95/96 team
     
    Looking back to 2011 and around that time, tough to disagree?
     
    http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.04.19-17.00.00-S.mp3
    http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.04.19-17.15.00-S.mp3



  • Hard to argue, certainly a golden era of players. Once in a lifetime All Blacks like McCaw, Carter, Nonu, Smith etc.
     
    Winning back to back RWC's wont be an easy achievement to match, for any other team/nation.



  • Hard to argue, certainly a golden era of players. Once in a lifetime All Blacks like McCaw, Carter, Nonu, Smith etc.
     
    Winning back to back RWC's wont be an easy achievement to match, for any other team/nation.

    First two for sure but as awesome as the other two were hard to put them in that echelon.....I mean how bout Lomu and Cully ?
     
    Aw well ok at 12 Ma'a gets in only cos there probably hasn't been a production line of legends like in the 7 and 10 jerseys......



  • Smith formed one of our best if not the best midfield partnerships we have ever had.
    Together unbeaten at RWC's...



  • is more the processions of players to ensure almost seamless transition when you lose such quality, I expect this year will be the biggest challenge of the era, but I think the legacy started by Henry, Smith and Hansen has left such an impression that the ABs will march along as they always seem to.
     
    Granted some individuals stand out, plenty of all time greats, but as a unit (players, coaching staff, backroom folk) on and off the field, this is where they stand head and shoulders above.



  • Smith formed one of our best if not the best midfield partnerships we have ever had.
    Together unbeaten at RWC's...

    That is tough to argue I give you that but individuals of the pro era like Bunce and Umaga can stake claims for the 13 jersey. This is pretty fresh in the memory from a chat a bunch of mates and I had over a few brews about the best AB team of the pro era in which McCaw, Carter, Nonu, Lomu and Cully all got in without anyone even having time to sip the beer we brewed but arguments were made for the two I mentioned earlier over Smith......



  • Bunce and Bruce Robertson in my life time
     
    But won't quibble with Conrad either - these debates are impossible to reconcile
     
    Bill Osborne was pretty special at 2nd five



  • I don't remember those two, a couple of the guys I was drinking with were over 40 but the consensus was one of Bunce, Umaga or Smith. I was a huge fan of all of them to be fair and a WC winners medal ( or two ) speaks volumes but it'd be a brave soul who'd pick Dagg, Smith, Savea, Kahui, Jane etc over Cully and Jonah.



  • Although I respect the achievements of past All Black teams, I simply can't see how this can even be debated
     
    How long is an era?  5 years?  10 years?
     
    Well, in the last 5 years we lost what, 3 times was it?  Drew a couple of times and won the rest.  Won back to back world cups, won and retained the bledisloe every year, 21 games in the RC, won 18, lost 2, drew once, NH tours, lost 1, won the rest.  Mid year AB games, France, Ireland, England all dispatched 3-zip isn't it?
     
    It's been utter sporting dominance.  
     
    EDIT - not lost at home since 2009 too.



  • Bill Osborne was pretty special at 2nd five

    I was only a little fella when he played but special is not how I would describe him. Average All Black springs to my mind.



  • Although I respect the achievements of past All Black teams, I simply can't see how this can even be debated
     
    How long is an era?  5 years?  10 years?
     
    Well, in the last 5 years we lost what, 3 times was it?  Drew a couple of times and won the rest.  Won back to back world cups, won and retained the bledisloe every year, 21 games in the RC, won 18, lost 2, drew once, NH tours, lost 1, won the rest.  Mid year AB games, France, Ireland, England all dispatched 3-zip isn't it?
     
    It's been utter sporting dominance.

    Yep, there's nearly a generation of AB fans who know no different to the recent superiority
     
    I'm sure it can't last but will savour it while I can (those '98 scars still run deep)



  • I was only a little fella when he played but special is not how I would describe him. Average All Black springs to my mind.

    Yeah? I thought he was one of the first block busting 2nd fives that ran and hit really hard. I thought he was a bit of a star, but as you say it was a while ago. He was above average I reckon



  • Bunce and Bruce Robertson in my life time
    But won't quibble with Conrad either - these debates are impossible to reconcile
    Bill Osborne was pretty special at 2nd five
    Impossible to reconcile but absolutely worth it.
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  • Agree with MR. Utter dominance.
    We are the Rocco Siffredi of rugby.
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  • Yep, there's nearly a generation of AB fans who know no different to the recent superiority
     
    I'm sure it can't last but will savour it while I can (those '98 scars still run deep)

    Bit of an over the top description there Siam, were you an AB or something ?



  • Agree with MR. Utter dominance.
    We are the Rocco Siffredi of rugby.
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    Just googled that fucker at work!  NSFW warning.
     
    (pun intended)



  • Just googled that fucker at work! NSFW warning.
    (pun intended)
    I meant Rocky Balboa...auto correct
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  • Bit of an over the top description there Siam, were you an AB or something ?

    Wash your mouth out with soap and water young man!! 🙂
     
    Those fuckers who wear all black, play for me and us don't you know. They know how hard we take losses and how much we celebrate wins.
     
    Take away the fan emotion and you've got sweet fuck all regardless of the win ratio 
     
    You spend your time living in Australia and a month and a half seeing the AB's lose over and over and tell me it's no big deal
     
    If 98 didn't piss you off, then you were too young to know stuff or you're fair weathered 🙂
     
    You should be ashamed you wrote that 😉
     
     
    ps please note all the smilies and yes those scars still run deep - bad times my friend



  • Yeah? I thought he was one of the first block busting 2nd fives that ran and hit really hard. I thought he was a bit of a star, but as you say it was a while ago. He was above average I reckon

    Not sure he was one of first blockbusting 2nd fives, mind you I am remember Ian MacCrae from the 60s, but Osborne was above average, still remember him being picked from early trial, in the days there were trials, and All Blacks were always picked from 2nd trial. They played 2 trials in a day, one was almost a cutain raiser.



  • Not sure he was one of first blockbusting 2nd fives, mind you I am remember Ian MacCrae from the 60s, but Osborne was above average, still remember him being picked from early trial, in the days there were trials, and All Blacks were always picked from 2nd trial. They played 2 trials in a day, one was almost a cutain raiser.

    Yeah I missed MacCrae but he must have been some player
     
    I might have had an uncle that was a Bill fan and it rubbed off but he was a permanent fixture in my impressionable years, and a fkn hard bastard


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