Crusaders v Waratahs
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tordah" data-cid="581057" data-time="1463734059">
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<p>how was that not a penalty try and YC? McNicholl tackled without the ball as he kicked it</p>
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<p>Well Peyper has obviously invoked the old "assumption that McNicholl was going to play the ball, so Phipps can't be expected to pull out of that tackle" law</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="581163" data-time="1463790545">
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<p>How about we leave the rules as they are and get the players to pass the ball in such a way that the their colleague catches the ball?</p>
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<p>Possibly the biggest load of bullshit ever spouted on the fern musing if players should be penalised for knocking the ball backwards.</p>
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<p>Wait till Aaron Smith does the same in cover defence in a black jersey and see if this frothing is brought up again</p>
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<p>how dare people discuss and muse over the rules on here, anyone would think this is a rugby forum or something! </p> -
<p>On the McNichol tackle, even if Phipps leaves him alone, the Tahs had the kick covered anyway, I don't think it had much impact on that play.</p>
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<p>And on the flip side, Crusaders were lucky not to concede a yellow card defending on their on line in the second half so it's a stretch to say Jaco cost the Crusaders the bonus point.</p>
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<p>Also I think allowing Guildford to score should automatically rule out any bonus point anyway...</p> -
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<p>How about we leave the rules as they are and get the players to pass the ball in such a way that the their colleague catches the ball?</p>
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<p>Possibly the biggest load of bullshit ever spouted on the fern musing if players should be penalised for knocking the ball backwards.</p>
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<p>Wait till Aaron Smith does the same in cover defence in a black jersey and see if this frothing is brought up again</p>
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<p>how dare people discuss and muse over the rules on here, anyone would think this is a rugby forum or something! </p>
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<p>You have strange little complex when you disagree with people's contributions on a public forum don't you?</p>
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<p>What was the point of your comment? You have every right to say what you want, I'm just curious that you see the need to explain the forum to someone who's been on it for at least 12 years.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="broughie" data-cid="581169" data-time="1463792591">
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<p>Considering the conditions the skill exhibited in that game was fantastic. Now if the Blues were playing it would have been a scrum fest due to all the knock ons.</p>
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<p>It was remarkable. Quite liked the way Read and Blackadder commented that it wasn't the game plan but what the hell. </p>
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<p>You have strange little complex when you disagree with people's contributions on a public forum don't you?</p>
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<p>What was the point of your comment? You have every right to say what you want, I'm just curious that you see the need to explain the forum to someone who's been on it for at least 12 years.</p>
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<p>Where did I disagree with anyones comments? </p>
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<p>You jumped up on your high horse claiming peoples musings about a rule as the biggest load of bullshit ever spouted on the fern, and I'm the one with the strange complex?</p>
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<p>Where did I disagree with anyones comments? </p>
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<p>You jumped up on your high horse claiming peoples musings about a rule as the biggest load of bullshit ever spouted on the fern, and I'm the one with the strange complex?</p>
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<p>OK pal...you win again! </p>
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<p>But the notion of penalising a player for knocking the ball backwards <u><strong>IS</strong></u> the biggest load of shit isn't it?</p>
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<p>I mean really. Penalty for knocking the ball backwards? It's not even a scrummable offence. Penalty?? Come on even freedom of speech has some limits</p>
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<p>in the context of the game last night and when the question was asked, I can see the validity in the question, but it would be a minefield to enforce given we see many dubious knocks ons not given and deliberate knock downs let go anyway.</p>
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<p>in the context of the game last night and when the question was asked, I can see the validity in the question, </p>
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<p>Don't fall for it mate. It's not a valid question. it's a whine because people didn't get the try they wanted. </p>
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<p>No validity - self entitled sookie la la whining</p> -
Not really surprised to see my harmless little question nearly spark world war three, coz shit spirals waaaay outa control real quick round here.<br><br>
No where did I say I wanted any laws changed, so calmly put down your weapons and slowly back away... -
The question deserved the derision and scorn heaped on it.<br><br>
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I played in a game where a teammate was penalised for knocking the ball backwards to stop a try. So seems a relevant discussion to me
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="581189" data-time="1463801160"><p>
I played in a game where a teammate was penalised for knocking the ball backwards to stop a try. So seems a relevant discussion to me</p></blockquote>
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The discussion should be the competence of that referee.<br><br>
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<p>But if Horne knocked it back and it bounced right and rolled out... then we are talking yellow card.</p>
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<p>Though actually that says more about the 'deliberately throwing into touch' rule than it does about the 'deliberate knock' rule. I think the throw into touch rule is ridiculous, and I can't see a reason it's there.</p> -
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<p>Not really surprised to see my harmless little question nearly spark world war three, coz shit spirals waaaay outa control real quick round here.<br><br>
No where did I say I wanted any laws changed, so calmly put down your weapons and slowly back away...</p>
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<p>Crikey - Canebry hasn't even posted on the thread yet. :)</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="581191" data-time="1463801843"><p>But if Horne knocked it back and it bounced right and rolled out... then we are talking yellow card.<br><br>
Though actually that says more about the 'deliberately throwing into touch' rule than it does about the 'deliberate knock' rule. I think the throw into touch rule is ridiculous, and I can't see a reason it's there.</p></blockquote>
Prevents a contest. That's what a ref told me once when I passed blindly to a winger who had stepped back inside. -
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<p>Prevents a contest. That's what a ref told me once when I passed blindly to a winger who had stepped back inside.</p>
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<p>Yeah but so does kicking it into touch. If a grubber is put into the ingoal area, you're fine to slide in feet first and kick it dead, but if you reach out and bat it dead then it's likely a PT. I just don't understand such wildly different punishments for two very similar actions with the exact same effect on the game.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="581176" data-time="1463794521"><p>
Don't fall for it mate. It's not a valid question. it's a whine because people didn't get the try they wanted. <br><br>
No validity - self entitled sookie la la whining</p></blockquote> I wasn't whining one little bit.<br><br>
I couldn't give a fuck if that particular try was scored or not, it was merely an observation about one tiny tiny part of the game of rugby, which rarely ever happens.<br><br>
No validity? Who makes you the fucking king and executioner of what a valid question or discussion is?<br><br>
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<p>The question deserved the derision and scorn heaped on it.<br><br>
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<p>well this place is in trouble then! </p>