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    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    I think the loosies scored all the tries in that match. It would have been easy to look up before NZR took over the stats.allblacks page and ruined it.

    Correct. Kronfeld (2), Jones and Brooke, one each. Plus a penalty try to start.

    I went to Cullen's debut test in Napier. 3 tries in that game..

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    @Bovidae said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    I think the loosies scored all the tries in that match. It would have been easy to look up before NZR took over the stats.allblacks page and ruined it.

    Correct. Kronfeld (2), Jones and Brooke, one each. Plus a penalty try to start.

    I went to Cullen's debut test in Napier. 3 tries in that game..

    Yeah, that was a good one. My mate and I had ground entry so took two plastic chairs and sat right up on the fence in between the halfway and 22. Imagine trying to take chairs in these days.

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    @Tim Blues had no pattern in the first half. Blowers, Jones, Fitzpatrick, Brooke all brutal tacklers.

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    Huge charge from Olo Brown shortly before halftime.

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    Interesting that the try stats referred to the competition as the "IPC".

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    Greg Cooper was well below the level of the other players on the field.

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    Early in the game there was a great high ball take from Cullen. Brave too, as he got smashed by Michael Jones but didn't flinch.

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    Jones' ball carrying, especially in close or from slow ball, was really elite.

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    Olo Brown was very effective with ball in hand as well. Surprised me.

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    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

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    The Scotland zig zag one is my favourite, made better by the fact I was watching it from under the posts.

    Poor old Scots.

    I remember watching that at the age of 19 with the old man. This was at the height of my "I hope Scotland are at least respectable in defeat" phase. Apparently we had the same dumbfounded expression when seven guys in a row decided to fall off him.

    Shit those other tries were amazing too. What an athlete he was. What a back three the ABs had.

    Due to pissing down in the second test I remember they managed to keep him tryless so that was a moral victory haha.

    I think the loosies scored all the tries in that match. It would have been easy to look up before NZR took over the stats.allblacks page and ruined it.

    That was a great year of live rugby watching for me, I went to every AB home test. Assume it would be too expensive for uni students to go to every AB home match these days.

    Yeah I went to the Athletic Park test vs the Wallabies. Outstanding fun in the pouring rain ( which turned brown from all the rust in the stands )

    At that match I nearly got in a punch up with two old codgers sitting behind us who kept hitting us with their umbrellas. They were just being boomer dicks.

    That was another cracker match to be at too. That was the match where I saw how much talking/controlling things that Zinny did.

    That match in the rain in Wellington in 96 is legendary.

    My favourite plays have to be the way that twice Lomu slides to grab a ball on the deck in the slippery wet conditions and cleanly gathers. For a man of his size it was such an impressive feat.

    Jonah had the best genetics of any Rugby player who’s ever lived

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    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @MN5 said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @nonpartizan said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

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    @Nepia said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    The Scotland zig zag one is my favourite, made better by the fact I was watching it from under the posts.

    Poor old Scots.

    I remember watching that at the age of 19 with the old man. This was at the height of my "I hope Scotland are at least respectable in defeat" phase. Apparently we had the same dumbfounded expression when seven guys in a row decided to fall off him.

    Shit those other tries were amazing too. What an athlete he was. What a back three the ABs had.

    Due to pissing down in the second test I remember they managed to keep him tryless so that was a moral victory haha.

    I think the loosies scored all the tries in that match. It would have been easy to look up before NZR took over the stats.allblacks page and ruined it.

    That was a great year of live rugby watching for me, I went to every AB home test. Assume it would be too expensive for uni students to go to every AB home match these days.

    Yeah I went to the Athletic Park test vs the Wallabies. Outstanding fun in the pouring rain ( which turned brown from all the rust in the stands )

    At that match I nearly got in a punch up with two old codgers sitting behind us who kept hitting us with their umbrellas. They were just being boomer dicks.

    That was another cracker match to be at too. That was the match where I saw how much talking/controlling things that Zinny did.

    That match in the rain in Wellington in 96 is legendary.

    My favourite plays have to be the way that twice Lomu slides to grab a ball on the deck in the slippery wet conditions and cleanly gathers. For a man of his size it was such an impressive feat.

    Jonah had the best genetics of any Rugby player who’s ever lived

    Amen.

    One thing about Jonah is that due to his size people overlooked his skills IMHO. The first of the slides (which leads to Justin Marshalls try) I'd say he has a 40% chance of beating the Wallaby (Tune?) to the ball. That he wins the footrace then collects the ball and offloads it is seriously impressive skill on a rainy day with a slippery ball.

    Yep, and I know that it was the amateur days so there may not have been quite as many gym junkies as today but his results in the tests ( excluding the dreaded 3km run ) were off the charts. He did work hard at it but his god given leg up gave him a ridiculous advantage.

    As you say the way he moved for such a huge dude was out of this world.

    Ben Tune ( much more mortal in comparison ) always gave him a serious run for his money, some hard tackles and nice sidesteps in there !

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    @MN5 said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    As you say the way he moved for such a huge dude was out of this world.

    His balance was arguably his greatest strength and point of difference. There are big fast guys, but they usually go down easily. Jonah was ridiculous - just got hit and stayed vertical - amazing to watch.

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    @nzzp said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    @MN5 said in Classic Rugby Videos:

    As you say the way he moved for such a huge dude was out of this world.

    His balance was arguably his greatest strength and point of difference. There are big fast guys, but they usually go down easily. Jonah was ridiculous - just got hit and stayed vertical - amazing to watch.

    Yep but his power was unmatched too. He could trample guys with his leg drive or if they went high he could ‘hand them off like flies’ ( copyright Bill McLaren )

    In any other era Christian Cullen would be the freak athlete of any backline……not in those days

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    Very interesting. Looking at the back row I always feel it's a shame that (probably in part due to his successor) that Josh Kronfeld is so often forgotten when it comes to looking at great loose forwards.

    Not saying (of course) that he would merit selection over RM just I feel like he is something of a forgotten man and doesn't even enter into conversations. Ofc Mccaw-Jones-ZB is the best loose forwards trio.

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    @nonpartizan I think Kronfeld, like Jones before him and McCaw after him were atop the tree kinda redefined the role of a 7.

    That was a pretty long period where we almost always had the best 7 in the game.

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