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  • sparkyS Offline
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    Foster's coming across well from this interview: humble and self-deprecating, very much a team-first coach who wanted to support his players.

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    @sparky said in Still talking about Foster:

    Only took him three minutes of the interview to get around to talking about cheese n' ham toasties and ice cream......

    To be fair, Fozzy looks like he's lost a few kilos in Japan.

    Well he is discussing being with Fat Guts Hansen in Japan. I bet a few bakeries got a visit.

    I'm also shocked at them all talking up Hamilton.

    But yes, a very likable fellow on the whole.

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    I don't think his likability was ever in question

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    From the outside it looked like maybe too nice a guy. The players obviously liked him, and he liked the players - possibly to the point he struggled to drop those he should have.

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    @reprobate said in Still talking about Foster:

    possibly to the point he struggled to drop those he should have

    A continuous theme with recent AB coaches.

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    Listened to most of that. He seemed a decent, sensible and likeable guy with good relations with his players and the other coaches.

    He's make a good neighbour. He's laugh at your jokes and offer to mow your lawn or baby sit your kids from time to time.

    What I didn't get though was any sense that he was a details men or familiar with much sports science. He seemed out of his depth as AB coach to be blunt.

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    @Machpants said in Still talking about Foster:

    More too the point the players should have stayed out of the CEO hotel room. Or the CEO should've told then to get back in their box.

    A CEO without bollocks.

    A head coach without bollocks.

    A squad without bollocks.

    Thats what most of the tenure was like.

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    @MN5 said in Still talking about Foster:

    I'm also shocked at them all talking up Hamilton.

    Hamilton the place not the superstar ex-All Black?

    I imagine the relatively level terrain suits people with a build no longer suited to strenuous activity.

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    @Canes4life said in Still talking about Foster:

    @reprobate said in Still talking about Foster:

    possibly to the point he struggled to drop those he should have

    A continuous theme with recent AB coaches.

    That was the knock. That Shag had lost it, and we picked a guy who would maintain his course. Razor was meant to be the agent of change. We will see how he goes this year, but last year was disappointingly more of the same

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    @nostrildamus said in Still talking about Foster:

    @MN5 said in Still talking about Foster:

    I'm also shocked at them all talking up Hamilton.

    Hamilton the place not the superstar ex-All Black?

    I imagine the relatively level terrain suits people with a build no longer suited to strenuous activity.

    No coincidence that Steve Hansen called Christchurch home

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    Fascinating podcast with Fozzie.
    It really shows the human side to the whole story and I think highlights how poor NZRU were throughout.
    I won't miss Robbo at all.

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    'Never felt so alone': Foster lifts lid on battles with NZ Rugby bosses
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    Very touching how Ardie reached out when he was at his lowest point. The players really had his back, Gilbert Enokas statement too was an incredible endorsement.

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    Anyone bought it? Apparently he explains that he actually wanted Joseph and Brown on his original team.

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    @gt12 said in Still talking about Foster:

    Anyone bought it? Apparently he explains that he actually wanted Joseph and Brown on his original team.

    So they turned him down?

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    @canefan said in Still talking about Foster:

    @gt12 said in Still talking about Foster:

    Anyone bought it? Apparently he explains that he actually wanted Joseph and Brown on his original team.

    So they turned him down?

    I dunno, that's why I'm asking if someone has read it 🙂

    From a post on FB:

    His preferred coaching duo—Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown—slipped away during New Zealand Rugby’s glacial appointment process.

    What he got instead were last-minute substitutes in John Plumtree and Brad Mooar, talented but not quite ready for the furnace of All Blacks expectations.

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    Yeah - he explains his frustrations that the process took so long after the 2019 RWC and believed it should have been concluded in “days”.

    He had agreement from those two to come over. Joseph would have been forwards coach.

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    @zedsdeadbaby said in Still talking about Foster:

    Yeah - he explains his frustrations that the process took so long after the 2019 RWC and believed it should have been concluded in “days”.

    He had agreement from those two to come over. Joseph would have been forwards coach.

    Another mark against the NZRU board.

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    @zedsdeadbaby said in Still talking about Foster:

    Yeah - he explains his frustrations that the process took so long after the 2019 RWC and believed it should have been concluded in “days”.

    He had agreement from those two to come over. Joseph would have been forwards coach.

    Talk about a sliding door moment. JJ manages the forwards, TB manages the backs..... 😔

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    Interesting book. Easy read. I think he was still probably a flawed coach but didn’t have a lot go his way and NZR’s power brokers don’t come off looking great (albeit from a biased POV) - whatever you thought of the tenure.

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