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    @Trig said in All Blacks 2025:

    @pakman and Peter O'Mahony

    He’s just a shit Jerome Kaino.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    there was an opting for versatile bench options that covered other positions.

    And how did that work out? Didn't the ABs have some insane stat last year in the Rugby Championship where they couldn't score in the second half/last 20 minutes?

    Here we go

    But as has been the case throughout this tournament, the All Blacks fell into an incredible second-half hole and could only add three points to their halftime total.
    
    For the fifth straight match in this competition, New Zealand failed to add any points in the final quarter and yet again saw their discipline and finishing drop off considerably.
    
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    the numbers online are never consistently accurate, but to be honest they just don't matter anyway. Plenty of guys play bigger or smaller than they are. Dalton is a machine. An absolute fucking workhorse, but he's not a power runner, or a monster tackler, or a big lineout target - all of which is what we usually want from our 6.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    the numbers online are never consistently accurate, but to be honest they just don't matter anyway. Plenty of guys play bigger or smaller than they are. Dalton is a machine. An absolute fucking workhorse, but he's not a power runner, or a monster tackler, or a big lineout target - all of which is what we usually want from our 6.

    Sounds like EB

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    @Nogusta Camp was Wednesday - Friday

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    the numbers online are never consistently accurate, but to be honest they just don't matter anyway. Plenty of guys play bigger or smaller than they are. Dalton is a machine. An absolute fucking workhorse, but he's not a power runner, or a monster tackler, or a big lineout target - all of which is what we usually want from our 6.

    Sounds like EB

    Yep, absolutely - they are both in the volume game. Slightly different in that Blackadder makes more tackles and more carries. Dalton probably hits more rucks, but not by much. Blackadder slightly the better lineout target.
    We had McCaw pretty much in that role - while he's obviously of a slightly different standard - which matched up well with power from Kaino and ball running and lineout from Read. Our problem is that if we pair our workers with Savea, the other guy needs to be a power and lineout forward - which Sititi isn't, and Finau hasn't convinced.

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    Devan Flanders and Bailyn Sullivan were both at AB camp this week.

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    Hypothetically, we could resolve our lack of height by playing two taller locks. Barrett is the shorter one, and if he could convert to a decent 6 that would help fix our lineout problems

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    @Landers92 I’m a big fan of Flanders and Parker would love to see them at 6 and 8 with someone like Ardie at 7 - just lacking a lot of experience then

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Hypothetically, we could resolve our lack of height by playing two taller locks. Barrett is the shorter one, and if he could convert to a decent 6 that would help fix our lineout problems

    I would rather see almost anyone play 6, including Vaai and Holland. If Barrett isn't a lock, he's not in the team.

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    Would be a breath of fresh air to see any of Flanders, Howden or Parker in the squad. Even if they're not necessarily ready for the prime time just yet, it would show that Razor is at least conscious of one of the seemingly clear issues.

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

    Devan Flanders and Bailyn Sullivan were both at AB camp this week.

    A few of the new faces have definitely impressed in the camp. Whether they get picked or not, who knows but it’s a positive that so many have been able to get in front of the AB coaches for a closer look.

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nogusta Camp was Wednesday - Friday

    Oh right. Yea I didn't know any of that detail. Only that Hoskins was a FIFO on the Thursday.
    Also heard that day that Jamie Jo is coaching the AB XVs.
    Not sure if that's already been shared anywhere?

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    Papalii, Christie and McWhannell also at camp (from Papalii's insta) @Nogusta @Landers92 ?

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    Around the ground he may have been indifferent in that 2nd Irish test at 6 but Papali'i did take 5 lineouts in that game. He's actually a good lineout target but is never used there as a Blues 7

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    Papalii, Christie and McWhannell also at camp (from Papalii's insta) @Nogusta @Landers92 ?

    I have a few contacts mate but none as good as photo proof on insta!

    Good to see the coaches including players like Mcwhannell, assuming he’s an AB XV member. Get them in the environment when you can, can only be beneficial.

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    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @reprobate

    Around the ground he may have been indifferent in that 2nd Irish test at 6 but Papali'i did take 5 lineouts in that game. He's actually a good lineout target but is never used there as a Blues 7

    He's not a dud, he's okay, in the Sititi, Blackadder, Jacobson, Lakai etc group though.
    Not a Finau or Sotutu or Read.

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

    Good to see the coaches including players like Mcwhannell, assuming he’s an AB XV member.

    I agree that it's good to widen the player pool, but there are no AB XV fixtures at this stage. McWhannell will be in the Māori squad.

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    Would not have an issue with Flanders getting a shot

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    Papalii, Christie and McWhannell also at camp (from Papalii's insta) @Nogusta @Landers92 ?

    I have a few contacts mate but none as good as photo proof on insta!

    Good to see the coaches including players like Mcwhannell, assuming he’s an AB XV member. Get them in the environment when you can, can only be beneficial.

    Apologies, these guys appear to be there in the photo (I’m sure of Christie but not 100% on McWhannell).

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