Aus v NZ -Chappell Hadlee series II
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@Crucial said in Aus v NZ -Chappell Hadlee series II:
For one thing Canberra is prone to thunderstorms and downpours. I haven't checked that ODI list but seem to remember a number of matches that end up in the D/L lottery (was at one PMs XI one that was a washout from memory). As these downpours are usually unpredicted and almost appear from nowhere in the evening the side batting second gets added pressure.
Secondly Canberra is at a reasonable altitude. The air can be quite dry with any humidity to assist bowlers only appearing late in the evening.
Thirdly the best conditions for batting are usually in the arvo when the temp has held steady for a few hours. There are quite big temp swings (eg 20 degrees C) that happen once the sun goes down.
As a comparison in NZ you are looking at Central Otago type weather. Would you bat first at Queenstown in a day night matchI think if rain is about that should encourage you to bat second. D/L favours the team batting second.
Regardless, I think Kane made the wrong decision at the toss. I just don't see why it is worthwhile discussing that when you lose by over 100 runs. When you let the other team score 378, I don't think the toss matters.
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Some of that is fair enough, Crucial - if it happens. But, to be honest, I didn't see any real change in conditions during that match. I think we thought conditions were such that if there was going to be much help at all it would be early on and that's fair enough. Ex post I don't think the decision to bat or bowl played any real role in the outcome of the game. As Hydro says - the game was lost when we let the Aussies score 378.
In fact, we were ahead of the Aussies run rate up until about the 38th over - but, they had more wickets in hand and finished like a train - and we didn't have the batsmen to do that against their bowling.
Interestingly, I recall watching the previous game at Manuka between Oz and India and the story there also wasn't about conditions - it was about a horrendous collapse by India from 277/1 - needing only about 70 runs from the last dozen overs.
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Chris makes a good point. If you are picking 3 strike bowlers as we did, you probably want to bowl first. I think the game showed why you don't want to pick 3 strike bowlers. Henry, Southee and Boult need something from the surface to be effective. If Milne and McClenaghan were there it doesn't matter so much.
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@NTA said in Aus v NZ -Chappell Hadlee series II:
Not throwing a bunch of pies might also help. Boult put down a few wides, Henry had 2nb 2w, the rest had a handful.
The point is: 24 extras (lb 11, w 10, nb 3) for the BCs versus 5 extras ( lb 1, w 4) for the BGs.
This makes me smile!
Now I can imagine how you guys feel when 'we' give you tips on how to improve your rugby team.
It's slightly humiliating!
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Well I wasn't trying to be a complete prick
But I well remember how recently some important Australian deliveries - particularly noball wickets - have hurt my team.
When they put up that stat about your bloke, Ferguson, being the first Kiwi to overstep in about 8000 deliveries, I found that kind of amazing.
Its bloody obvious, right? Train like you play, play like you train: don't fucking overstep!!!
And with noballs potentially worth double-figures like that first game in Sydney, its murder.
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So our batting has been shit bar Guppy, our bowling has been shit, and our fielding has been shit. 3 key areas to work on there...
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@No-Quarter start with the fielding. Catches win matches and all that shit. Series could be 1-1 if a few had been taken in Sydney.
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i reckon we've got to give guppy a run at 5 in the test team, and just say have at it mate. he's far too talented a player to leave out given our relatively meagre resources. starc is the best in the world, hazelwood is pretty handy too and he just looks more comfortable than anyone else against them. there has to be some way to get him to succeed with a red ball.
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@reprobate said in Aus v NZ -Chappell Hadlee series II:
i reckon we've got to give guppy a run at 5 in the test team, and just say have at it mate. he's far too talented a player to leave out given our relatively meagre resources. starc is the best in the world, hazelwood is pretty handy too and he just looks more comfortable than anyone else against them. there has to be some way to get him to succeed with a red ball.
I totally misread that!
I read "I reckon we've got to give guppy a run in the test team"
I was wondering where you had been in the past decade...