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  • StargazerS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Stargazer
    #112

    Italian team to play Fiji

    15 Jayden HAYWARD (Benetton Rugby, debut)
    14 Leonardo SARTO (Glasgow Warriors, 32 caps)
    13 Tommaso BONI (Zebre Rugby Club, 5 caps)
    12 Tommaso CASTELLO (Zebre Rugby Club, 2 caps)
    11 Mattia BELLINI (Zebre Rugby Club, 5 caps)
    10 Carlo CANNA (Zebre Rugby Club, 22 caps)
    9 Marcello VIOLI (Zebre Rugby Club, 5 caps)
    8 Sergio PARISSE (Stade Francais, 126 caps) - capitano
    7 Abraham STEYN (Benetton Rugby, 14 caps)
    6 Francesco MINTO (Benetton Rugby, 36 caps)
    5 Dean BUDD (Benetton Rugby, 3 caps)
    4 Marco FUSER (Benetton Rugby, 24 caps)
    3 Simone FERRARI (Benetton Rugby, 5 caps)
    2 Luca BIGI (Benetton Rugby, 3 caps)
    1 Andrea LOVOTTI (Zebre Rugby Club, 17 caps)

    Reserves:
    16 Leonardo GHIRALDINI (Stade Toulosain, 86 caps)
    17 Federico ZANI (Benetton Rugby, 3 caps)
    18 Dario CHISTOLINI (Zebre Rugby Club, 18 caps)
    19 Marco LAZZARONI (Benetton Rugby, 1 cap)
    20 Giovanni LICATA (Fiamme Oro Rugby, debut)
    21 Edoardo GORI (Benetton Rugby, 63 caps)
    22 Ian MCKINLEY (Benetton Rugby, debut)
    23 Matteo MINOZZI (Zebre Rugby Club, debut)
    .

    Fiji
    15 Kini MURIMURIWALU (La Rochelle)
    14 Josua TUISOVA (Toulon RC)
    13 Asaeli TIKOIROTUMA (London Irish)
    12 Jale VATUBUA (Pau)
    11 Timoci NAGUSA (Montpellier)
    10 Ben VOLAVOLA (North Harbour)
    9 Frank LOMANI (Naitasiri)
    8 Nemani NAGUSA (Aurillac)
    7 Akapusi QERA (Agen) - capitano
    6 Semi KUNATANI (Stade Toulousain)
    5 Leone NAKARAWA (Racing ’92)
    4 Apisalome RATUNIYARAWA (Northampton Saints)
    3 Manasa SAULO (London Irish)
    2 Tuapati TALEMAITOGA (Aix Marseille Provence Rugby)
    1 Campese MA’AFU (Northampton Saints)

    Reserves
    16 Sunia KOTO (Marcon)
    17 Peni RAVAI (Bordeaux-Begles)
    18 Ropate RINAKAMA (Northland)
    19 Sikeli NABOU (Biarritz Olympique)
    20 Mosese VOKA (Namosi)
    21 Henry SENILOLI (Timisoara Saracens)
    22 Levani BOTIA (La Rochelle)
    23 Vereniki GONEVA (Newcastle Falcons)

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/98741780/new-zealandborn-jayden-hayward-handed-italy-debut-against-fiji

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  • MN5M Online
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    @stargazer said in 2017 November Internationals:

    Italian team to play Fiji

    15 Jayden HAYWARD (Benetton Rugby, debut)
    14 Leonardo SARTO (Glasgow Warriors, 32 caps)
    13 Tommaso BONI (Zebre Rugby Club, 5 caps)
    12 Tommaso CASTELLO (Zebre Rugby Club, 2 caps)
    11 Mattia BELLINI (Zebre Rugby Club, 5 caps)
    10 Carlo CANNA (Zebre Rugby Club, 22 caps)
    9 Marcello VIOLI (Zebre Rugby Club, 5 caps)
    8 Sergio PARISSE (Stade Francais, 126 caps) - capitano
    7 Abraham STEYN (Benetton Rugby, 14 caps)
    6 Francesco MINTO (Benetton Rugby, 36 caps)
    5 Dean BUDD (Benetton Rugby, 3 caps)
    4 Marco FUSER (Benetton Rugby, 24 caps)
    3 Simone FERRARI (Benetton Rugby, 5 caps)
    2 Luca BIGI (Benetton Rugby, 3 caps)
    1 Andrea LOVOTTI (Zebre Rugby Club, 17 caps)

    Reserves:
    16 Leonardo GHIRALDINI (Stade Toulosain, 86 caps)
    17 Federico ZANI (Benetton Rugby, 3 caps)
    18 Dario CHISTOLINI (Zebre Rugby Club, 18 caps)
    19 Marco LAZZARONI (Benetton Rugby, 1 cap)
    20 Giovanni LICATA (Fiamme Oro Rugby, debut)
    21 Edoardo GORI (Benetton Rugby, 63 caps)
    22 Ian MCKINLEY (Benetton Rugby, debut)
    23 Matteo MINOZZI (Zebre Rugby Club, debut)
    .

    Fiji
    15 Kini MURIMURIWALU (La Rochelle)
    14 Josua TUISOVA (Toulon RC)
    13 Asaeli TIKOIROTUMA (London Irish)
    12 Jale VATUBUA (Pau)
    11 Timoci NAGUSA (Montpellier)
    10 Ben VOLAVOLA (North Harbour)
    9 Frank LOMANI (Naitasiri)
    8 Nemani NAGUSA (Aurillac)
    7 Akapusi QERA (Agen) - capitano
    6 Semi KUNATANI (Stade Toulousain)
    5 Leone NAKARAWA (Racing ’92)
    4 Apisalome RATUNIYARAWA (Northampton Saints)
    3 Manasa SAULO (London Irish)
    2 Tuapati TALEMAITOGA (Aix Marseille Provence Rugby)
    1 Campese MA’AFU (Northampton Saints)

    Reserves
    16 Sunia KOTO (Marcon)
    17 Peni RAVAI (Bordeaux-Begles)
    18 Ropate RINAKAMA (Northland)
    19 Sikeli NABOU (Biarritz Olympique)
    20 Mosese VOKA (Namosi)
    21 Henry SENILOLI (Timisoara Saracens)
    22 Levani BOTIA (La Rochelle)
    23 Vereniki GONEVA (Newcastle Falcons)

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/98741780/new-zealandborn-jayden-hayward-handed-italy-debut-against-fiji

    Jaydeno Haywardalino.

    Fucken great player.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #114

    Dean Budd is a Kiwi from Northland.

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    #115

    @pot-hale said in 2017 November Internationals:

    Ireland side for SA.

    Henshaw at 13 and Conway and Stockdale starting on the wings is the most pleasing thing. Aki inclusion, less said the better. Pleased for Sweetnam to make the backs bench along with the improving James Ryan. Schmidt developing the stocks nicely. Ruddock very unlucky to miss out to POM on the blind - he’s been superb for Leinster so far this season.

    15 Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 76 caps
    14 Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 3 caps
    13 Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster) 29 caps
    12 Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht)*
    11 Jacob Stockdale (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 2 caps
    10 Johnny Sexton (St Mary's College/Leinster) 66 caps
    9 Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 57 caps

    1 Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 70 caps
    2 Rory Best (c) (Banbridge/Ulster) c 104 caps
    3 Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 16 caps
    4 Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 32 caps
    5 Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 50 caps
    6 Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 40 caps
    7 Sean O'Brien (UCD/Leinster) 49 caps
    8 CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 15 caps

    Replacements
    16. Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 1 cap
    17. Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster) 20 caps
    18. John Ryan (Cork Constitution/Munster) 9 caps
    19. James Ryan (UCD/Leinster) 2 caps
    20. Rhys Ruddock (St Mary's College/Leinster) 16 caps
    21. Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht) 16 caps
    22. Joey Carbery (Clontarf/Leinster) 4 caps
    23. Darren Sweetnam (Cork Constitution/Munster)*

    I’ll be interested to see how Aki goes. I’ve slways maintained he is a better play than Francis Sailli but Francis had a wee coterie of fans.

    Stockdale looks a good talent. Ireland has had a succession of mainly “meh” wingers (to which Conway can be added) but Stockdale has impressed when I’ve watched Ulster.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    #116

    @stargazer that team seems odd for the women - I thought the one uncapped player usually starts?

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @gunner said in 2017 November Internationals:

    I wish you guys would post the team lists in an orthodox manner.

    Either 1-15, or 15-1.

    In what world does 1 come after 9 when counting backwards?

    The part that struggles with change.
    The 15-9 followed by 1-8 listing follows the position order of the old jersey numbers where fullback was one and the Number 8 was 15. Primarily this was a South Africa thing. England and Wales (despite the ordering used when listing teams now) actually had the openside at 15 and the eightman at 14
    NZ went 1-15 from fullback through to loosehead.
    Ireland and France used the system currently standard.
    NZ changed. SA changed. England and Wales only changed the numbers on the jerseys but not the order on the team sheet. Ireland, despite actually getting it right a long time ago choose to issue their team lists in the same convoluted manner as England.

    It's a bit like when these places went metric but didn't really go metric. Sell fuel by the litre but measure roads by miles and measure fuel economy by miles to gallon. Sell milk in 568ml containers so it is just a pint by another name rather than taking advantage of the simplicity of the metric system and rounding.

    Mind you we are all stupid enough to use beer drinking vessels that dictate filling right to the brim to get the correct measure so that you can spill some it anyway.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    @crucial said in 2017 November Internationals:

    @gunner said in 2017 November Internationals:

    I wish you guys would post the team lists in an orthodox manner.

    Either 1-15, or 15-1.

    In what world does 1 come after 9 when counting backwards?

    Mind you we are all stupid enough to use beer drinking vessels that dictate filling right to the brim to get the correct measure so that you can spill some it anyway.

    I thought that was only a problem over these ways? I don't recall the need to fill to the brim down under.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by taniwharugby
    #119

    @bovidae yep, been playing in Italy for a while now.

    edit - just checked, since 2012!

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @bones I don't know whether they still play by that rule; last week's Baabaas men's team had several uncapped players on the bench, in fact, they had only one capped player in the reserves (Ben Franks).

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    This is what I love about the Barbarians. Entertaining rugby played by past, present and future stars combined with complete and utter nonsense! 😆

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    Tongan team to take on the Barbarians:

    1 Paea Fa’anunu (Dax)
    2 Sione Lea (Taranaki)
    3 Ben Tameifuna (Racing 92)
    4 Halaleva Fifita (Waikato)
    5 Steven Mafi (Vc) (Castres)
    6 Dan Faleafa (Colomiers)
    7 Fotu Lokotui (Counties)
    8 Maama Vaipulu (Castres)
    9 Sonatane Takulua (c) (Newcastle)
    10 Kali Hala (Counties)
    11 Cooper Vuna (unattached)
    12 Tevita Taufu’i (Waikato)
    13 Nafe Tu’itavake (Northampton)
    14 Tevita Halaifonua (Gloucester)
    15 ‘Atieli Pakalani (Leicester)

    Reserves:
    16 Maile Ngauamo (Gloucester)
    17 Latu Talakai (Waikato)
    18 Halani ‘Aulika (Sale)
    19 ‘Onehunga Havili (Western Force)
    20 Sione Vailanu (Saracens Storm)
    21 Shinisuke Tu’umoto’oa (Daito Bunka University, Japan)
    22 Penikolo Latu (University of Waikato)
    23 Fetuli Paea (Sila Pelu Ua)

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #123

    Kali Hala listed as Counties? I thought he was Auckland.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @crucial This is the list on the Steelers' site (see under "Super Rugby cover", whatever that means):

    Home | Counties Manukau RFU

    Home |  Counties Manukau RFU

    CMRFU Counties Manukau Rugby Football Union Steelers Heat

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    @stargazer said in 2017 November Internationals:

    @crucial This is the list on the Steelers' site (see under "Super Rugby cover", whatever that means):

    Home | Counties Manukau RFU

    Home |  Counties Manukau RFU

    CMRFU Counties Manukau Rugby Football Union Steelers Heat

    I think it means those players come into the squad when another player is unavailable due to Super Rugby commitments early season.
    I see he plays for Karaka now anyway.
    Seems funny that a guy that can't make an ITM Cup team gets to run the cutter as an international though.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #126

    Watching the Baabaas v Tonga game (because I can't record that one) and it's definitely a different game from last week's. Different team (not sure why Luatua and Kwagga Smith aren't there; the Bus has broken down and is in repair; and "the five have joined the ABs) and different opponent.

    I won't try to commentate the game here, because they do that much better on the Barbarians twitter feed: https://twitter.com/Barbarian_FC

    One of the Tongan players (Taufu'i?) went off early with what looked like a shoulder injury or broken arm. Stirzaker also off with a head knock, meaning old man Ellis has to play at least 65 minutes.

    Bad weather conditions, but still reasonably entertaining.

    Tonga leads 14-12. Baabaas tries scored by Naiyavoro and Bridge.

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    After a penalty, the Baabaas lead 15-14 at half time.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Nice! Highlights of Jonah Lomu playing for the Baabaas are shown during the break! Maybe not super-speed, but certainly super-strength.

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    I notice on Nasi Manu's Instagram he was on the Tongan bus and in their sheds. Always wondered if he'd turn out for Tonga. Hope that's a sign he might be involved in their World Cup campaign. Too good of a player to play Test rugby.

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    Looks like Ben Tameiafuna is trying to enter the record books as the heaviest player ever to play international rugby.

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    #131

    And as I write that he leaves the field, probably seen the Dial a Pizza delivery van pulling up at the ground with the me'akai for the changing rooms, first in first served after all!

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