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  • KiwiPieK Offline
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    @mn5 said in The Ashes:

    @kiwipie said in The Ashes:

    @mn5 said in The Ashes:

    @kiwipie said in The Ashes:

    For the time before the 2 test matches start - this XI was voted for on the BBC Sport website based on performances in Ashes tests. In my best Murray Deaker voice "Yours please"

    Hobbs
    Boycott
    Bradman
    Border
    S. Waugh
    Botham
    Gilchrist
    Warne
    Lillee
    McGrath
    Anderson

    Some serious legends have missed out on that team.....Hammond, Hayden, Cook, Gooch.....that's just the top three batsmen.

    Gotta be question marks on Boycott, Border, S Waugh and Anderson....not denying they're greats but in an absolute ALL TIME 11???

    Sorry you can't question Border and Waugh and then bring Cook into the argument - he has a very poor Ashes record barring one series.

    That one series he was exceptional. I probably worded that poorly. He's worth a fleeting mention.

    Many to mention ahead of him based on him not averaging above 40 in any Ashes series except that one. Just for English openers - Sutcliffe, Gooch, Edrich, Hutton ....

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    @mn5 said in The Ashes:

    Don't get me wrong fellas, I love S Waugh I just don't know if he's an absolute automatic pick.

    His Ashes record is bloody good though. Averages over 60 from memory.

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    @barbarian said in The Ashes:

    @mn5 said in The Ashes:

    Don't get me wrong fellas, I love S Waugh I just don't know if he's an absolute automatic pick.

    His Ashes record is bloody good though. Averages over 60 from memory.

    He does indeed. Over 70 in England ....

    Remember many times Australia made over 600 and he was around 170 not out at the end

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    @kiwipie I do. Holy God I do.

    Thanks for that KP. It's been a long day.

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    Steve Waugh.

    Fark me, I'd pick him too, second or third name down. Put him in charge of a team like that and watch it go 🙂

    Also, I'm a SWaugh fanboy. I mis-typed 'lick' instead of 'pick' and considered leaving it alone. FML.

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    Can some cricket nerd get Walter Hammonds average in ashes cricket? I can't fathom him not being in there somewhere.

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    @mn5 said in The Ashes:

    Can some cricket nerd get Walter Hammonds average in ashes cricket? I can't fathom him not being in there somewhere.

    33 matches, 2852 runs at 51.85, 9 hundreds, 36 wickets at 44.77, 43 catches. Useful .....

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    @nzzp said in The Ashes:

    Also, I'm a SWaugh fanboy. I mis-typed 'lick' instead of 'pick' and considered leaving it alone. FML.

    Considering that he was a bit of a fluffybunny that makes sense

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    @kiwipie said in The Ashes:

    @mn5 said in The Ashes:

    Can some cricket nerd get Walter Hammonds average in ashes cricket? I can't fathom him not being in there somewhere.

    33 matches, 2852 runs at 51.85, 9 hundreds, 36 wickets at 44.77, 43 catches. Useful .....

    Definitely but judging by that he obviously boosted the overall test average to 58 by flogging shit teams like NZ. I stand corrected, Tugga and Captain Grumpy are better options.

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    @crucial said in The Ashes:

    @nzzp said in The Ashes:

    Also, I'm a SWaugh fanboy. I mis-typed 'lick' instead of 'pick' and considered leaving it alone. FML.

    Considering that he was a bit of a fluffybunny that makes sense

    Yep, but that usually makes a good international cricketer.

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    @mn5 said in The Ashes:

    @kiwipie said in The Ashes:

    @mn5 said in The Ashes:

    Can some cricket nerd get Walter Hammonds average in ashes cricket? I can't fathom him not being in there somewhere.

    33 matches, 2852 runs at 51.85, 9 hundreds, 36 wickets at 44.77, 43 catches. Useful .....

    Definitely but judging by that he obviously boosted the overall test average to 58 by flogging shit teams like NZ. I stand corrected, Tugga and Captain Grumpy are better options.

    Just because he once averaged 563 in a 2 match series v NZ in 1933?

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    @kiwipie said in The Ashes:

    @mn5 said in The Ashes:

    @kiwipie said in The Ashes:

    @mn5 said in The Ashes:

    Can some cricket nerd get Walter Hammonds average in ashes cricket? I can't fathom him not being in there somewhere.

    33 matches, 2852 runs at 51.85, 9 hundreds, 36 wickets at 44.77, 43 catches. Useful .....

    Definitely but judging by that he obviously boosted the overall test average to 58 by flogging shit teams like NZ. I stand corrected, Tugga and Captain Grumpy are better options.

    Just because he once averaged 563 in a 2 match series v NZ in 1933?

    Was that the same series NZ got bowled out for 26?

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    @mn5 No - Anybody with a passing interest in cricket should know a few dates and stories and March 1955 is high amongst them along with Xmas 53 Mar 74 Feb 78 ....

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    @dogmeat said in The Ashes:

    @mn5 No - Anybody with a passing interest in cricket should know a few dates and stories and March 1955 is high amongst them along with Xmas 53 Mar 74 Feb 78 ....

    Youve got me old timer. Im hoping one of these is a story about Paddles shortened run?

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    @mn5 Tangiwai Test - first victory over Oz - First victory over England

    I can be even more boring than usual over cricket anniversaries 🙂

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    @dogmeat said in The Ashes:

    @mn5 Tangiwai Test - first victory over Oz - First victory over England

    I can be even more boring than usual over cricket anniversaries 🙂

    I remember i had a paddles VHS. The England victory was at the basin right?

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    @dogmeat What about October 2000?

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    @MN5 Correct. Set NZ cricket fans up nicely for the tour of England later that year - which we lost 3-0. Modern fans moan about inconsistent Black Caps. I remember when we were all too consistent. Lose to everyone Home and away which is why those two victories in the 70's sit large in my memory. Plus got of geography to listen to the cricket in 74 and sat in front of TV with a few beers for the England victory

    @Kiwipie I'm a traditionalist - restricted myself to Test cricket

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    Beefy makes the team based on one incredible ashes. How did he go in others?

    ( again, I can't access that info on a smartphone )

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    @mn5 said in The Ashes:

    Beefy makes the team based on one incredible ashes. How did he go in others?

    ( again, I can't access that info on a smartphone )

    He was always a bit hit and miss with the bat - but with the ball there were 2 phases to his career. A superb, fast medium swing bowler until his back went and then a chubby trundler afterwards who could still bowl the odd jaffa (and had the mentality that he was still a hostile quick)

    After that 1981 series he had 87 wickets against Australia at 22.67. From then on it was 61 wickets at 34.77.

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