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    Robertson confirmed No 8 Kieran Read's surgery on a prolapsed lumbar disc in his back went without a hitch last weekend.
    
    He also confirmed props Joe Moody (shoulder) and Owen Franks (Achilles) and fullback/wing Israel Dagg (knee) were progressing "really well" with their rehab. 
    
    The Crusaders have called in props Ryan Coxon ( Ta$man), Reuben O'Neill (Taranaki) and Auckland's Ezekiel Lindenmuth (NZ under-20s) to help fill the void.
    
    "[Franks and Moody] have got some clear marks that they reach along the way with their rehab, they've reached them all," Robertson said. "For those two, they're looking to get back around April."
    
    Dagg, who didn't require surgery after his season ended part way through the Rugby Championship, could be back for the start of the new season in late February. 
    
    "He's been really focussed on getting his knee as strong as he possibly can," Robertson said.
    
    "It's as hard as I've seen Izzy work. He knows that it's a critical time for him in his career. He's got two more years with us at the Crusaders and he wants to make it pretty special."
    

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/100067880/oldest-crusader-bolsters-reigning-champs-depth-at-firstfive-eighth

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    @tim said in Super Rugby News:

    What's the deal with the Lions' new coach? Will they suffer from Ackermann's absence?

    From the Lions' Facebook page:

    The CEO of Lions Rugby Company Rudolf Straeuli is proud to announce the new coaching structures for 2018.
    
    Swys de Bruin, head coach of the Lions Rugby franchise is very excited about the prospect for the future and working with exciting home grown coaches that are part of the coaching structures for the Lions.
    
    The full 2018 structures are as follows:
    
    Super Rugby
    Head Coach: Swys de Bruin
    Forwards: Philip Lemmer 
    Breakdown and Backline: Joey Mongalo
    Head of Strength & Conditioning: Ivan van Rooyen
    ...
    Kicking & Skills (HP Coach): Neil de Bruin
    etc
    

    Swys de Bruin was the Lions assistant coach under Ackermann. According to his CV, "He is widely acknowledged as the brains behind the Lions’ superb attacking play that has seen them reinvent themselves as a free-scoring team". So it looks like there will be some continuity at the Lions. Which may help answering your question @Tim.
    The CV's of the coaches are in this post:

    https://www.facebook.com/lionsrugbyco/photos/a.158198030912132.39349.151843218214280/1612888685443052/?type=3&theater

    In a later post, the Lions have announced that their defence and assistance coach, JP Ferreira, is leaving. He's going to Munster.

    https://www.facebook.com/lionsrugbyco/photos/a.158198030912132.39349.151843218214280/1625595954172325/?type=3&theater
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    @stargazer Thanks dude!

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    @kiwimurph I have heard that there will be a Warkworth vs. Wellington craft-beer face-off at the Mahurangi preseason game.

    I have pushed back starting my professor appointment for this.

    Should be a hell of a weekend. 🙂

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    @tim said in Super Rugby News:

    @kiwimurph I have heard that there will be a Warkworth vs. Wellington craft-beer face-off at the Mahurangi preseason game.

    Fark, that sounds like it's worth making an effort for. May see you lads there!

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    Great to see Michael Little in Super Rugby.

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    @tim

    Probably happy to be back - his Japanese was alright, from memory (he went to school here for a bit). Lucky bastard will be living large.

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    https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/side-entry-the-nerds-are-taking-over-rugby-20171210-2

    Speaking of All Blacks, has anyone noticed Bulls coach John Mitchell has turned the rugby language into corporate speak? Mitch was quoted as saying of his players “They have a choice between SOAR (Standards Ownership Accountability Responsibility), or BED (Blame Excuses Denial)” this week. Apparently his coaching methodology is called WTP (Weekly Tactical Periodisation), which may or may not rhyme with WTF.

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    @tim ah Mitch, he really is a special creature isn't he?

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    @mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:

    @tim ah Mitch, he really is a special creature isn't he?

    The journey continues.

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    @tim So have the Saffas only just figured this out now? The guy is a few kumara short of a hangi. Damn, now I feel like hangi - one issue with living in the West Island is I don't get to do my hangi/BBQ crawl on Xmas day.

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    for all his faults, Mitch did get some great results and bring through some outstanding players..but when you add in the, er, business speak, the innovative stuff he tried, as well as his media management...

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    @taniwharugby Nepia's alarm just went off "but Cully..."

    Those two away games in 2003 3N were awesome. Just belting the saffers and the Aussies at their house in consecutive weeks. And then got the Bledisloe back. That's a good year. Unfortunately then the World Cup semi happened.

    And then the stuff about the culture came out.

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    @mariner4life thats the innovative stuff; you should hold a ball like this, no rucking, no contesting at lineouts...

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    What a tool!
    The question is, if Hunt is guilty and loses his job, will Thorn ask Cooper to come back to the Reds?

    Hunt charged with drug possession

    Karmichael Hunt has been arrested and charged with drug possession, after allegedly being caught by police in Brisbane.
    ...
    The 31-year-old re-signed with Rugby Australia and the Reds just last month.
    
    RUGBY.com.au understands no other players were involved.
    
    Rugby Australia released a statement on Saturday afternoon, saying it has begun an investigation into the incident.
    ... ...
    
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    No.

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    I'll just put this here...

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    @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

    I'll just put this here...

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    Ignoring the elephant in the room (I'll await the arrival of SammyC or Canerbry ... or for the ghost of Phooey to arise ...):

    1. Where from?
    2. any idea how they calculate?
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    @booboo said in Super Rugby News:

    @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

    I'll just put this here...

    Ignoring the elephant in the room (I'll await the arrival of SammyC or Canerbry ... or for the ghost of Phooey to arise ...):

    1. Where from?
    2. any idea how they calculate?

    1 From USA.
    2 This is what they say on their website:

    Designed by a MIT economist, Rugby Vision (RV) is a suite of statistical models that predicts outcomes for major rugby competitions. For each game, RV calculates the expected score margin and the probability of each team winning. RV also calculates the probability of each team obtaining various milestones in a tournament. For more on RV’s methods, see our Rugby World Cup overview. 
    

    On that RWC page they say this:

    Like most future events, it is impossible to know for certain who will win the 2015 Rugby World Cup, but we can estimate probabilities of various outcomes occurring. We do this by building a rating system for international rugby matches and using these ratings to estimate expected score margins (like who will win and by how much.) We can then characterize uncertainty around these predictions.
    
    In the following analysis, I use the rugbyvision.com algorithm to rate teams. This scheme is an Elo-type system specifically designed to represent international rugby games. The Elo system, named after Arpad Elo, was originally invented to rank chess players and is now used in various other games and sports. In the Elo system, ratings points are based on past performances and differences in ratings points reflect relative strength. Our rugbyvision.com ratings employ a different system to that used for the official world rugby (formerly International Rugby Board) ratings, so our rankings differ from the official ones.
    

    I've seen more of these kind of predictions v outcomes ratings based on algorithms, and they always seem to have strange rankings. In this one, only one of the winners of the four major competitions in 2017 (Aviva Premiership, Super Rugby, Pro12 and Top 14) is the highest ranked team of their competition.

    Edited to add that it is also odd that they use the predictions & results of the unfinished European competitions (12 games Premiership, 10-12 games Pro 12 & 14 games Top 14), instead of the data of finished 2016-2017 competitions.

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