Chiefs all time XV
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Koula Tukino
Whatever happened to that joker? He looked the part but then literally vanished off the face of the earth ( even in the early 2000s if was usually pretty easy to find out if someone had gone overseas but not him, he was like a ghost )
Awesome player when in form.
I believe he ended up in Italy for a while. Not very professional but Mitchell got him sorted for a while. When Counties had that shit season before relegation he didn't turn up to the last game against Auckland.
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Nowhere near Deon Muir if that is the metric for selection.
I've revised some of my selections from earlier, after reading @mariner4life 's and @Bovidae 's teams (i.e., taking things a bit more seriously).
Much of the spine of my team comes from the title winning side now, so TKB moves back to start, with Messam, TKB, Cruden, SBW the heart of the attack. Sona and Ben T have to come from the bench,
I still can't get Holah starting, without moving Cane, which I'm loathe to do, so he'll have to come off the bench with Lauaki.
Jono to start and captain from six, which means Messam moves to eight. Old school front row, with plenty of impact from the bench. Jono covers lock, and we can let Lauaki have 20-30 fun minutes, especially if we are playing the Blues.
Kahui (and SBW) covers wing, and I wanted a place for Little, but he's the first name I'd switch out.
1 Michael Collins
2 Tom Willis
3 Nathan White
4 Keith Robinson
5 Brodie Retallick
6 Jono Gibbes (c)
7 Sam Cane
8 Liam Messam
9 TKB
10 Aaron Cruden
11 Sitiveni Sivivatu
12 SBW
13 Kahui
14 Bruce Reihana
15 Mils Muliaina
16 Hika Elliot
17 Sona Taumalolo
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Marty Holah
20 Sione Lauaki
21 Byron Kelleher
22 Beaver
23 Walter LittleLeonard is unlucky, as is Stormy, who I love, but I can't find a place for him. Umaga too, who was getting old by the time he showed up, plus Bunce (same problem, really), and Osbourne, who I don't think really turned out for us many times. Lomu only scored a handful of tries in one season, so he technically has to go too. I'm still tempted to keep Mealamu because I remember him being amazing in his one season with us. Reihana moves to the wing, because I want a FB/wing - even thought he didn't play that much there, which makes Randle probably one of the most unlucky.
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@gt12 said in Chiefs all time XV:
Nowhere near Deon Muir if that is the metric for selection.
I've revised some of my selections from earlier, after reading @mariner4life 's and @Bovidae 's teams (i.e., taking things a bit more seriously).
Much of the spine of my team comes from the title winning side now, so TKB moves back to start, with Messam, TKB, Cruden, SBW the heart of the attack. Sona and Ben T have to come from the bench,
I still can't get Holah starting, without moving Cane, which I'm loathe to do, so he'll have to come off the bench with Lauaki.
Jono to start and captain from six, which means Messam moves to eight. Old school front row, with plenty of impact from the bench. Jono covers lock, and we can let Lauaki have 20-30 fun minutes, especially if we are playing the Blues.
Kahui (and SBW) covers wing, and I wanted a place for Little, but he's the first name I'd switch out.
1 Michael Collins
2 Tom Willis
3 Nathan White
4 Keith Robinson
5 Brodie Retallick
6 Jono Gibbes (c)
7 Sam Cane
8 Liam Messam
9 TKB
10 Aaron Cruden
11 Sitiveni Sivivatu
12 SBW
13 Kahui
14 Bruce Reihana
15 Mils Muliaina
16 Hika Elliot
17 Sona Taumalolo
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Marty Holah
20 Sione Lauaki
21 Byron Kelleher
22 Beaver
23 Walter LittleLeonard is unlucky, as is Stormy, who I love, but I can't find a place for him. Umaga too, who was getting old by the time he showed up, plus Bunce (same problem, really), and Osbourne, who I don't think really turned out for us many times. Lomu only scored a handful of tries in one season, so he technically has to go too. I'm still tempted to keep Mealamu because I remember him being amazing in his one season with us. Reihana moves to the wing, because I want a FB/wing - even thought he didn't play that much there, which makes Randle probably one of the most unlucky.
Surely Kelleher starts ahead of TKB? I know TKB was there during the glory days but TKB isn't in the same league as BK as an attacking scrum-half.
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Yes, but I like his potential impact of the bench, while TKB might be one of the best defensive HBs ever. They could be switched pretty easily though. Leonard is unlucky, because he would be good at that role and is the third HB in my squad.
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@bovidae said in Chiefs all time XV:
The last Te Rapa club game I watched was when I went to watch Mils returning from a shoulder injury. Kahui was also playing that day.
That's one thing the older guys at Te Rapa miss, being able to play with and against higher level players. I just missed playing with Sivivatu when I was at Frankton although we were his club at the time.
A couple of years ago at Te Rapa we had a Pre season game against Otorohanga B's while their A squad was away at a camp. It was a surprise to see Liam Squire having a run.
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@mikedogz said in Chiefs all time XV:
@bovidae said in Chiefs all time XV:
The last Te Rapa club game I watched was when I went to watch Mils returning from a shoulder injury. Kahui was also playing that day.
That's one thing the older guys at Te Rapa miss, being able to play with and against higher level players. I just missed playing with Sivivatu when I was at Frankton although we were his club at the time.
A couple of years ago at Te Rapa we had a Pre season game against Otorohanga B's while their A squad was away at a camp. It was a surprise to see Liam Squire having a run.
Apparently he's a good guy to have a feed with according to old mate @jegga, have you heard that story?
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@mikedogz said in Chiefs all time XV:
That's one thing the older guys at Te Rapa miss, being able to play with and against higher level players. I just missed playing with Sivivatu when I was at Frankton although we were his club at the time.
That's how club rugby seems to be now, unfortunately. There aren't as many veterans playing, much less former ABs. That's why it was great to see Holah still playing for Marist a few years ago.
Speaking of Siti, I also went to watch him play a game for Frankton on a heavy and muddy Swarbrick Park when he needed to prove his fitness to be selected for the ABs after an injury. He carved the opposition up from centre. Anesi also turned up to see him in action. I don't know how many other games he played for them.
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I know Sivi played in both A and B games. Before he left, Tameifuna had a few games for Suburbs in Division 1 rugby. I heard from a guy who was part of the management that year that he asked to play at first five for a game. Dunno if that happened or not.
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Taumalolo
Elliott
Afeaki
Robinson
Retallick
Gibbes
Cane / Holah
Messam
Kelleher
Cruden
Sivivatu
Little
Bunce
Kahui
MulianaToby Smith (he was very good before he left for Australia)
De Malmanche
White (I don't rate Tameifuna a lot)
Jones
Lauaki
TKB
Beaver
Reihana
