EPL 2017/2018
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@antipodean said in EPL 2017/2018:
@mariner4life said in EPL 2017/2018:
I just don't know why Hughes, Pardew, Moyes, and Allardice keep getting hired.
Because unlike other applicants, they have relevant experience on their resumes.
I can sort of understand that argument. But it omits a big part of the picture. They bail you out of relegation one year, then you sack them a year later for dull football that has you back in the relegation race.
Take Sam at Everton, the narrative of some will be he saved Everton this season, and was sacked. When he was appointed they had taken 15 points in 14 games, and of their 7 losses, they had already played City, Spurs, Man U, and Arsenal, games they probably would have lost anyway. Sam got them 34 in 24, yes a slight improvement, but there is nothing to say that wouldn't have happened anyway given the draw.
Overall, between this season and the last Everton dropped a place, but with 12 points fewer, and a goal difference that reduced by 32. A club of Everton's standing is not going to accept that. Their goal is "best of the rest".
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@mariner4life said in EPL 2017/2018:
I just don't know why Hughes, Pardew, Moyes, and Allardice keep getting hired.
A lack of depth amongst British managers. Like players, you get better value for money looking at continental Europe but some clubs aren't that adventurous.
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@bovidae said in EPL 2017/2018:
Arteta doesn't have many managerial experience though. Vieira would be a better option for an ex-player.
Heaps of names have been mentioned including Klopp's no.2 Željko Buvač.
I'm not too bothered with that. I imagine that whoever takes over, it won't go smoothly for a while
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@hooroo said in EPL 2017/2018:
@bovidae said in EPL 2017/2018:
Arteta doesn't have many managerial experience though. Vieira would be a better option for an ex-player.
Heaps of names have been mentioned including Klopp's no.2 Željko Buvač.
I'm not too bothered with that. I imagine that whoever takes over, it won't go smoothly for a while
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@mariner4life well, both West Ham and Everton fans have delusions of grandeur which is partly to blame.
The dour football argument is a shit one. You get given a team in a crap position, with little confidence and your expected to keep them up by playing exciting football? Not possible! Your first goal is to survive which means basically park the bus as much as possible.
Moyes and Allardyce careers are basically the same: long term success at one club, then a string of short term failures after. Both are looking for the same thing - time to really build a club. Both signed on and achieved their first goal - Allardycr better than Moyes and now both gone.
Pretty shitty.
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Chelsea win the FA cup. Conte wins the two biggest domestic titles on offer in 2 seasons, and will still get sacked.
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The latest rumour is that former Sevilla and PSG manager Unai Emery will be appointed as the new Arsenal manager. Arteta overlooked due to his lack of experience. Emery certainly won't have the budget he had at PSG.
This is what I was afraid of. The owners are still reluctant to spend money which would have attracted a better quality of manager.
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@bovidae said in EPL 2017/2018:
The latest rumour is that former Sevilla and PSG manager Unai Emery will be appointed as the new Arsenal manager. Arteta overlooked due to his lack of experience. Emery certainly won't have the budget he had at PSG.
This is what I was afraid of. The owners are still reluctant to spend money which would have attracted a better quality of manager.
Didn't he just get run out of PSG? At least he won't have to worry about trying to cope with a Neymar type star at the Emirates.....
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@bovidae said in EPL 2017/2018:
@canefan said in EPL 2017/2018:
Didn't he just get run out of PSG?
Yes, for failing in the Champions League, particularly that loss to Barcelona. PSG cleaned up in Ligue 1.
3 Europa Cup wins with Sevilla. That might come in handy.
3 more things than Spurs have won in the last 10 years.... 😔
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High point of the Champions League final was the pitch invader as Ronaldo was about to score the 4th, take his shirt off and claim all the credit when he'd had a poor game.
I reckon Bale's goal was the finest ever of its type - incredible piece of athleticism just to direct it towards the goal and the perfect placement was a bonus!
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@kiwipie sessegnon has been with us since he was 8 and has said he wants to play for Fulham in PL. Drums were beating about a sale to Spurs with a loan back to Fulham which ticks a lot of boxes - but who knows. I hope he stays obviously and also think at just 18 he's better off playing at Fulham than sitting on the bench at one of the big clubs.
It's not just him though - Fredericks is off contract - 3 of the team from Saturday were loan players. We have to re-sign Jokanovic. Gonna be a busy summer.
I think Fulham's current first side are good enough to survive in the PL but we really lack depth. Hopefully there are some more gems coming through the club.
Meanwhile I have to get used to re-assessing ambitions from winning every game to survival.
