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    98blueandgold
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    Love how they state that those players are unavailable. Is this a cop-out if they lose? Looking at that list I see a few 'game changers' but mostly run of the mill English test players. Might be wrong though

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    @98blueandgold said in England tour to RSA:

    Love how they state that those players are unavailable. Is this a cop-out if they lose? Looking at that list I see a few 'game changers' but mostly run of the mill English test players. Might be wrong though

    Sure. Don't pick your best players, then that's your excuse for losing. Eddie obviously hasn't thought about actually winning.

    The list of unavailable is interesting though. It is a mixture of injuries, players being rested due to fatigue/form and a few thanks for the memories. There's around 10 on that list that would be contenders for the test side that are injured, 3 (IMO) rested.

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    98blueandgold
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    @catogrande yeah agree but although many on that list can play international rugby only a few are try 'game-changers' or better than who is there?

    Uncapped *

    Maybe from these? def not Hartley though 😉
    Danny Care (Harlequins)
    Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)
    Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby)
    George Kruis (Saracens)
    Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints)
    Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors)
    Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers)
    Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby)

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    Catogrande
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    @98blueandgold

    Danny Care (Harlequins) rested due to fatigue/form
    Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)not sure, rested I think
    Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby)injured
    George Kruis (Saracens)rested
    Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints)injured
    Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors)injured
    Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers)coming back from injury/injured again
    Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby)injured

    Hartley also injured, but would be a debatable selection in any case. Of the others not available, they are from the wider training squad but not really considered likely tour selections barring either further injuries or a left field selection from Eddie - ie Cameron Redpath injured

    So, barring the injury list, which all teams have to contend with, there are no excuses.

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    Making friends where ever he goes

    May 31, 2018  /  Sport

    Eddie Jones’s England training methods to come under scrutiny

    Eddie Jones’s England training methods to come under scrutiny

    Eddie Jones’s England training methods will be scrutinised in a meeting of rugby’s powerbrokers

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    Probable starting team for the boks based on training sessions:

    Springboks (probable)– 15 Willie le Roux, 14 S’bu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Aphiwe Dyantyi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Jean-Luc du Preez, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 RG Snyman, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Beast Mtawarira.

    Not an experienced team. Personally, the only strength is the loose trio + flyhalf.

    Midfield, front row are poor.

    Outside backs and locks are untested for the most part.

    England must be hungry to break a 10 year losing streak, best chance is this weekend.

    At 8 out of 15, Rassie certainly is ticking boxes. Positions 2, 3, 12 certainly only there for the above, and while Beast has been solid over the years, he doesn't deserve to be there ahead of Kitshoff.

    Might even give this game a watch as I am a sadist.

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    @pn said in England tour to RSA:

    ** England must be hungry to break a 10 year losing streak, best chance is this weekend.**

    Did 2016 not happen?

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    Damian de Allende, has looked sprightly this year.

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    @catogrande said in England tour to RSA:

    @pn said in England tour to RSA:

    ** England must be hungry to break a 10 year losing streak, best chance is this weekend.**

    Did 2016 not happen?

    Great, now I got to find my neuralizer again. Batteries must be running dry from the mileage it's getting as a supporter of this bok team.

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    @rapido said in England tour to RSA:

    Damian de Allende, has looked sprightly this year.

    I thought the same. He drifted away after coming onto the scene and looking ace, but is looking like a much better player recently

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