NPC - news, injuries etc
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@stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@crucial I'd also bold Jarrad Hoeata and Manasa Mataele.
Fair call, have edited.
There were a few borderline ones where I was trying to differentiate between good players at this level and those playing an obvious class below their ceiling.Perhaps unfair to single out the Naki in this regard but with the injuries/ABs I was trying to get a picture of their strength once those players are removed.
Maybe we should work through some other contenders as comparison?
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Here's CM with Injured/ABs crossed out and those playing well below their ceiling highlighted
Nigel Ah Wong, Manurewa, Midfield , 10 caps
Suetena Asomua, Waiuku, Prop, 0 caps*
Sean Bagshaw, Onewhero, Prop, 41 caps
Liam Daniela, Bombay, Halfback, 4 caps
Sione Fifita, Pukekohe, wing, 18 caps
Latiume Fosita, Ardmore Marist, First Five-Eighth, 0 caps*
Sam Furniss, Patumahoe, Midfield, 5 caps
Kalione Hala, Karaka , Utility ,2
Sam Henwood,Pukekohe,Loose forward , 22 caps
Dan Hyatt,Waiuku, Loose forward, 16 caps
Nepo Laulala, Ardmore Marist, Prop, 0
Luteru Laulala, Ardmore Marist, First Five-eighth, 11 caps
Daymon Leasuasu, Ardmore Marist, Lock, 0 caps*
Orbyn Leger, Karaka, Midfield, 10 caps
Fotu Lokotui, Ardmore Marist, Loose Forward, 7 caps
Matiaha Martin, Bombay, Lock, 18 caps
Sione Molia Karaka Wing 9 caps
Tevita Nabura Waiuku Wing 8 caps
Sikeli Nabou Ardmore Marist Loose Forward 45 caps
Etene Nanai-Seturo Bombay Fullback 0 caps*
Siaosi Nginingini Ardmore Marist Halfback 0 caps*
Toni Pulu Bombay Wing 44 caps
Viliame Rarasea Ardmore Marist Lock 33 caps
Kieran ReadCrusaders Loose forward 0 caps
Joe Royal Patumahoe Hooker 10 caps
Howard Sililoto Manurewa Prop 0 caps*
Gafatasi Su'a Manurewa Hooker 30
Viliami Taulani Manurewa Loose forward 7 caps
Te Aihe Toma Manurewa Halfback 0 caps
Kalolo Tuiloma Bombay Prop 20 caps
Jonathan Taumateine Ardmore Marist Halfback 10 caps
Coree Te Whata-Colley Bombay Prop 10
Matt Vaai Manurewa Loose forward 16 caps
Cardiff Vaega Karaka Midfield 21
Sonny Bill WilliamsPuni Midfield 2 capsYou could argue a couple of other Super players there but they aren't established or proven at that level.
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@shark said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@crucial are we sure it's the former AB half back? Different spelling, but he's 33 so could be him?
They just haven't learned to spell.
Yarrows Taranaki Bulls coach Willie Rickards has named his squad for the upcoming Mitre10 Cup campaign, including the signing of former All Blacks and Chiefs halfback Brendan Leonard.
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@stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
Waikato 19 (3T) - 15 (3T) Magpies (HT: 19 - 5)
Still haven't found the Waikato line-up.
2018 Waikato Mitre 10 Cup Squad Forwards Haereiti Hetet (*) Otorohanga Josh Iosefa-Scott (8) Melville Ayden Johnstone (9) Hautapu Sefo Kautai (20) Hamilton Marist Atu Moli (18) University Toby Smith (50) Hamilton Old Boys Sekope Lopeti-Moli (1) Hautapu Mike Mayhew (3) Hautapu Samisoni Taukeiaho (11) Fraser Tech
Tim Bond (*) University Sam Caird (7) Hautapu Laghlan McWhannell (2) Hautapu James Tucker (22) Hamilton Marist Jono Armstrong (18) Hautapu Jahrome Brown (1) Melville Adam Burn (44) Hamilton Old Boys Murray Iti (17) Otorohanga Luke Jacobson (10) Hautpau Mitch Jacobson (26) Hautapu Jordan Manihera (20) Hamilton Old Boys
Backs Kylem O’Donnell (8) Melville Jack Stratton () Raniera Takarangi (1) Hamilton Old Boys Matty Lansdown (10) Fraser Tech Damian McKenzie (24) University Fletcher Smith () Anton Lienert-Brown (19) University Pepesana Patafilo () Morrinsville Sports Bailyn Sullivan (7) Hamilton Marist Dwayne Sweeney (82) Morrinsville Sports Quinn Tupaea () Hamilton Old Boys Jordan Bunce () Fraser Tech Tyler Campbell (13) University Mosese Dawai () Otorohanga Niven Longopoa (*) Fraser Tech Declan O’Donnell (29) Melville Sevu Reece (22) Hamilton Old Boys
() = caps for Waikato * = uncapped
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@williethewaiter ah so Tim Bond came down to you guys, gutted!
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2018 Waikato Mitre 10 Cup squad - background info and list on the Waikato rugby website: http://www.mooloo.co.nz/newsarticle/66287
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I could easily post this in the Magpies forum, Chiefs 2019 thread and general Super Rugby thread, but since the Mitre 10 Cup starts next week, I'll post this here.
I'm really feeling sorry for the lad; so much talent, so little luck.
Hawke's Bay coach Mark Ozich says Sam McNicol's prolonged absence from rugby due to concussion will at least extend to almost two years because New Zealand Rugby are cautiously "holding him back". The Chiefs utility back was not included in Hawke's Bay's 2018 squad announced on Wednesday after fronting for the Magpies at Tuesday's Mitre 10 Cup launch in Auckland. McNicol, who is contracted with the Chiefs through to 2019, hasn't played at all this year because of ongoing concussion issues and his last competitive outing was for Hawke's Bay last October.Ozich said the 22-year-old is "symptom free" and has been cleared to play, but revealed he would be held back from potentially returning to the fray until next year's Mitre 10 Cup. It means McNicol will miss the 2019 Super Rugby season after suffering multiple head knocks in the last three years. "Even though he's feeling good and he's been cleared from a medical point of view, New Zealand Rugby are holding him back to make sure he's given time to recover and [they] are not rushing him back," Ozich told Stuff on Thursday. "He's still young, and with his wellbeing and his future in mind, the consensus is to hold him back for another six months to make sure he comes back and has every opportunity to have longevity in the game, if he comes back." Ozich said McNicol was confident of playing again despite the concussion nightmare that has dogged his young career. "He's training with the guys, he's doing the skill and condition work, so he's a part of training, although he's not [involved] in contact areas, but he's keeping fresh and keeping his skills honed. "He's really hungry to play but he still understands that airing on the side of caution at this stage is probably [best]." -
The Wellington Lions squad will be named on Tuesday, 14 August.
The Wellington XV squad to meet Ta$man in Blenheim is:
15 Trent Renata (Oriental-Rongotai)
14 Tuitama Malo (Oriental-Rongotai)
13 Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wainuiomata)
12 Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Wainuiomata)
11 Losi Filipo (Petone)
10 TJ Va’a (Wainuiomata)
9 Kemara Hauiti-Parapara (Tawa)
8 Thomas Waldrom (Avalon)
7 Greg Foe (Poneke)
6 Galu Taufale (Poneke)
5 Isaia Walker-Leawere (Poneke)
4 James Blackwell (Petone)
3 Joel Hintz (Old Boys University)
2 James O’Reilly (Hutt Old Boys Marist)
1 Tolu Fahamokioa (Tawa)Reserves
16 Pasi Uluilakepa (Petone)
17 Sitiveni Paonga (Tawa)
18 Tietie Tuimauga (Johnsonville)
19 Naitoa Ah Kuoi (Marist St Pats)
20 Mateaki Kafatolu (Petone)
21 Du’Plessis Kirifi (Northern United)
22 Teariki Ben-Nicholas (Old Boys University)
23 Carlos Price (Petone)
24 Dale Sabbagh (Old Boys University)
25 Isaia Petelo (Marist St Pats)
26 Ollie Sapsford (Wellington)https://www.wrfu.co.nz/news/post/wellington-xv-named-to-face-tasman/
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That Wellington squad, with the Umaga-Jensen twins playing at 12 and 13, makes me wonder whether playing against identical twins who play next to each other is a complicating factor for opponents? Or doesn't it matter whether they look exactly the same?
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@taniwharugby Its good two see Robinson back playing. He was excellent preseason last year with the blues before getting that bad injury and I don't think he has played since. Will also be interested to see what a decent forward coach like Whitcombe can get out of Isi Tu'ungafasi who looked a bit soft and lazy with Auckland but showed a bit more intent in one of the last games last season.
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Steamers team vs Auckland Today.
Head Coach Clayton McMillan has been forced to make two last minute changes due to sickness and injury in the locks with late call ups Aaron Carrol and Lars Morrice respectively securing a starting position and spot on the bench. Other notable starters is Te Puna’s Jeff Thwaites returning to the fold and Kaleb Trask moving into the starting first five eight position.An experienced bench will see the return of fullback Chase Tiatia following his super rugby duties, the introduction of prop Ross Geldenhyus, hooker Valentine Meachen and All Blacks Sevens representative Trael Joass on the wing.
Bay of Plenty Steamers:
- James Lay
- Liam Polwart
- Jeff Thwaites
- Aaron Carrol
- Tyler Ardron
- Hugh Blake
- Mitch Karpik
- Hoani Matenga
- Luke Campbell
- Kaleb Trask
- Matt Garland
- Terrence Hepetema
- Liam Steel
- Fa’asiu Fuatai
- Bailey Simonsson
Reserves:
16. Valentine Meachen
17. Solomona Sakalia
18. Ross Geldenhyus
19. Lars Morrice
20. Ajay Mua
21. Richard Judd
22. Trael Joass
23. Chase Tiatia
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Turbos preseason XV v Hawke’s Bay (Fri 10 August, Napier, k/o 1pm)
15 Junior Laloifi, 14 Jono Ihaka, 13 Rob Thompson, 12 James Tofa, 11 Te Rangatira Waitokia, 10 Hamish Northcott, 9 Kayne Hammington, 8 Brice Henderson, 7 Antonio Kiri Kiri (c), 6 Liam Mitchell, 5 Nick Crosswell, 4 Liam Hallam-Eames, 3 Sione Asi, 2 Tim Cadwallader, 1 Faalelei Sione. Reserves: 16 Sam Stewart, 17 Fraser Armstrong, 18 Sean Paranihi, 19 Brad Tucker, 20 Sam Wasley, 21 Griffin Culver, 22 Cody Hemi, 23 Shai Wiperi
https://www.turbosrugby.co.nz/news/thompson-named-for-turbos-preseason-match
I've posted the Magpies team in the Magpies forum.
