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I'm a firm believer that driving is partially observed behaviour. If you've been brought up by a couple of generations of drivers, you observe and adopt. However, being the first generation to progress from riding a cow or herding goats makes it entirely a new phenomenon.
That being said, despite watching Chinese create five lanes of traffic in Shanghai where three lanes were clearly painted on the road, I saw a surprisingly small amount of accidents. Perhaps they export their shit drivers?
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@no-quarter I think historically, and statistically, males did drive more often when going on family trips, which has also contributed to the males more likely to have accidents than females (add in the show off factor too and well, perfect storm)
I remember as a young boy in the late 70s and early 80s, we went on family outings, dad drove, even after he'd had a few beers and mum hadnt had anything to drink.
my bro and I were given a bottle of coke and a bag of burger rings or chips and sent out to the old Escort Van to go and read or fight until we got tired and needed to sleep
Oh the memories, we only got raspberry and lemonade and a packet of chippies . My mother denies this ever happened now .
I shudder to think about her or dad driving the hq statesman home over the castlepoint road afterwards . -
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I'm a firm believer that driving is partially observed behaviour. If you've been brought up by a couple of generations of drivers, you observe and adopt. However, being the first generation to progress from riding a cow or herding goats makes it entirely a new phenomenon.
That being said, despite watching Chinese create five lanes of traffic in Shanghai where three lanes were clearly painted on the road, I saw a surprisingly small amount of accidents. Perhaps they export their shit drivers?
that was my impression too. The roads there look like carnage, but there are so few accidents. They have the ability to take small gaps, use their horn to make sure everyone knows they are there, and don't get pissed because someone has the audacity to merge in front of them.
Maybe the fact that most Australasian drivers are aggressive dicks is what puts them off?
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@mariner4life said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I'm a firm believer that driving is partially observed behaviour. If you've been brought up by a couple of generations of drivers, you observe and adopt. However, being the first generation to progress from riding a cow or herding goats makes it entirely a new phenomenon.
That being said, despite watching Chinese create five lanes of traffic in Shanghai where three lanes were clearly painted on the road, I saw a surprisingly small amount of accidents. Perhaps they export their shit drivers?
that was my impression too. The roads there look like carnage, but there are so few accidents. They have the ability to take small gaps, use their horn to make sure everyone knows they are there, and don't get pissed because someone has the audacity to merge in front of them.
Maybe the fact that most Australasian drivers are aggressive dicks is what puts them off?
This. So much this. There is a sizable proportion of drivers on the road in NZ that are aggressive as fuck. You see ridiculous shit nearly every day. One of my biggest annoyances is when I indicate to change lanes, and the fuckwit behind me sees that and decides to slam on the accelerator, change into the same lane I am moving into and try and overtake me. Putting himself right into my blind-spot. That seems to happen far more than I would expect given how absolutely braindead it is.
I've heard in China they tend to drive a lot slower, so struggle to adapt in NZ where going about 10% above whatever the speed-limit is the norm.
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@no-quarter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@mariner4life said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I'm a firm believer that driving is partially observed behaviour. If you've been brought up by a couple of generations of drivers, you observe and adopt. However, being the first generation to progress from riding a cow or herding goats makes it entirely a new phenomenon.
That being said, despite watching Chinese create five lanes of traffic in Shanghai where three lanes were clearly painted on the road, I saw a surprisingly small amount of accidents. Perhaps they export their shit drivers?
that was my impression too. The roads there look like carnage, but there are so few accidents. They have the ability to take small gaps, use their horn to make sure everyone knows they are there, and don't get pissed because someone has the audacity to merge in front of them.
Maybe the fact that most Australasian drivers are aggressive dicks is what puts them off?
This. So much this. There is a sizable proportion of drivers on the road in NZ that are aggressive as fuck. You see ridiculous shit nearly every day. One of my biggest annoyances is when I indicate to change lanes, and the fuckwit behind me sees that and decides to slam on the accelerator, change into the same lane I am moving into and try and overtake me. Putting himself right into my blind-spot. That seems to happen far more than I would expect given how absolutely braindead it is.
I've heard in China they tend to drive a lot slower, so struggle to adapt in NZ where going about 10% above whatever the speed-limit is the norm.
i don't know about slower, some drive at unreal speeds. But yea, i think generally it was a bit slower?
Merging in Australasia is the worst part of driving. Fuckwits who simply won't let people in, slowing down two lanes of traffic. Fuckwits like the ones you describe. Fuckwits who don't look.
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@bovidae said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I remember as a young boy in the late 70s and early 80s, we went on family outings, dad drove, even after he'd had a few beers and mum hadnt had anything to drink.
my bro and I were given a bottle of coke and a bag of burger rings or chips and sent out to the old Escort Van to go and read or fight until we got tired and needed to sleep
That sounds very similar to my childhood except it was a Holden stationwagon and with 2 sisters.
@canefan You hear horrible stories (after a fatal accident) about Chinese arriving in NZ and never have driven on an open road, i.e., they learnt to "drive" on a simulator.
Different conditions. I've been to China a couple of times and there are shitloads of cars, strangely I saw no accidents.
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@mariner4life fair enough, I don't know the first thing about China so have no idea - might have been someone referring to a particular part of it given how massive that country is.
Another thing they (and a lot of people from overseas) might struggle with in NZ is 100km speed limits on narrow two lane roads.
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@no-quarter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@mariner4life fair enough, I don't know the first thing about China so have no idea - might have been someone referring to a particular part of it given how massive that country is.
Another thing they (and a lot of people from overseas) might struggle with in NZ is 100km speed limits on narrow two lane roads.
That does scare the shit out of me to be honest, thereās only a strip of paint between you and someone travelling at 100 kmh towards you could be distracted by dropping hot pie gravy onto their lap, or adjusting their stereo or arguing with their partner or think ā they are a very good driverā.
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I've seen none. Guess I won't be getting that new batch after all....
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I've seen none. Guess I won't be getting that new batch after all....
Give it time mate, thereās supposed to be more hitting the pavement soon .
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If the stereotype about Asian/Indian drivers was actually true no one would ever get out of Sydney airport by road due to all the crashes because ever cab /Uber/Ola driver is Asian/Indian (or Arab).
@mariner4life said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Merging in Australasia is the worst part of driving. Fuckwits who simply won't let people in, slowing down two lanes of traffic. Fuckwits like the ones you describe. Fuckwits who don't look.
Yeah, that seems to be a SH thing, NZ is the same, whereas in Europe there's no issues with merging.
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@bones ctrl+c = copy
ctrl+v = pasteIf you're an applefag ctrl has a different name.
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@mariner4life said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I'm a firm believer that driving is partially observed behaviour. If you've been brought up by a couple of generations of drivers, you observe and adopt. However, being the first generation to progress from riding a cow or herding goats makes it entirely a new phenomenon.
That being said, despite watching Chinese create five lanes of traffic in Shanghai where three lanes were clearly painted on the road, I saw a surprisingly small amount of accidents. Perhaps they export their shit drivers?
that was my impression too. The roads there look like carnage, but there are so few accidents. They have the ability to take small gaps, use their horn to make sure everyone knows they are there, and don't get pissed because someone has the audacity to merge in front of them.
Maybe the fact that most Australasian drivers are aggressive dicks is what puts them off?
Yeah for part of my recent stay in Melbourne I was opposite a massive intersection. So much fucken honking. I then realised that most of the honking was people behind the person at the front of the lights, jumping on the horn angrily as soon as the light turned green. Happened all the bloody time and I started to notice it quite a lot walking around town.
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@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bones ctrl+c = copy
ctrl+v = pasteIf you're an applefag ctrl has a different name.
Oh right! I've never seen a keyboard like that before.
Shit joke, I'm sure they'd use Windows. Apple is for creative types isn't it?
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@bones said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@antipodean said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bones ctrl+c = copy
ctrl+v = pasteIf you're an applefag ctrl has a different name.
Oh right! I've never seen a keyboard like that before.
Shit joke, I'm sure they'd use Windows. Apple is for creative types isn't it?
Hahahaha nice
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@nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
If the stereotype about Asian/Indian drivers was actually true no one would ever get out of Sydney airport by road due to all the crashes because ever cab /Uber/Ola driver is Asian/Indian (or Arab).
@mariner4life said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Merging in Australasia is the worst part of driving. Fuckwits who simply won't let people in, slowing down two lanes of traffic. Fuckwits like the ones you describe. Fuckwits who don't look.
Yeah, that seems to be a SH thing, NZ is the same, whereas in Europe there's no issues with merging.
That's because drivers in Europe are considerate
