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    @number9 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @number9 Cos the AB selectors know more about selecting than you, I guess. He's been good, and has long term upsides. They're developing like they did Ardie, apprentice etc. he turned out alright in the end.

    I hope one of those extended number of lose forwards stands up and grips the 6 position, cos there are tons of almost players there. It will be worse if none do cos then we may have an undercooked Squire pulled in. ALso I really hope SBW either totally owns it or totally stuffs up. As with 6, midfield is a mess and really needs time together - IMO ABs tests are not he place to bring a player up to speed. And SBW is well off pace, and Crotty out for entire RC - a mess.

    Just what we need at a RWC, midfield conundrums - goes really well that.

    That has got to the most piss weak arguement for a selection that I have ever read. Aumua has had a terrible season, Ardie was brilliant from the get go. No comparison it is like comparing a jet engine to your Morris Minor.

    Not sure Ardie and Asafo were/are competing for the same position

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    Does anyone else think Brad Weber is this year's Brendon Leonard?

    I'd really prefer T-Cube.

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    @Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    For me the luckiest forward is actually Matt Todd. He's a sader, so can't play the first game, and won't be going to Japan (outside of injuries to Ardie or Cane) - he's just another of the bloated number of loose forwards. We know he can cut it, and is first on the plane if injuries strike.

    Todd is unsurprising, based on the injury tolls of 2011 and 2015 my bet is that they want the shadow 31-man squad + all potential first call ups in the environment for some period this year pre-RWC.

    RadioSport only caught half the Q&A with the selectors, but did they mention if they had their match-day squads tentatively mapped out for this brace of tests, because the squad seems seriously heavy unless the key ABs that go to Argentina are rested against the Boks (or Crusaders don't come back for that either).

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    Aumua is a very surprising selection. Sure he may have promise but he has had a bad case of 2nd season blues. He’s been pretty poor overall this season.

    Other than that not too many surprises and I do like most of the additions.

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    @booboo
    Result of him having more game time I guess. Hasn't TTT been riding the pine all year?

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    @Yeahtheboys said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    So the game against Argentina is 2 weeks after the super rugby final.... why can’t the players in the final play this match? 2 weeks........

    Do you want our players to be at their peak in October? They need these mini breaks for that to happen.

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    @pakman agree. We have people to fit the position but nothing outstanding.

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    @booboo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @number9 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @number9 Cos the AB selectors know more about selecting than you, I guess. He's been good, and has long term upsides. They're developing like they did Ardie, apprentice etc. he turned out alright in the end.

    I hope one of those extended number of lose forwards stands up and grips the 6 position, cos there are tons of almost players there. It will be worse if none do cos then we may have an undercooked Squire pulled in. ALso I really hope SBW either totally owns it or totally stuffs up. As with 6, midfield is a mess and really needs time together - IMO ABs tests are not he place to bring a player up to speed. And SBW is well off pace, and Crotty out for entire RC - a mess.

    Just what we need at a RWC, midfield conundrums - goes really well that.

    That has got to the most piss weak arguement for a selection that I have ever read. Aumua has had a terrible season, Ardie was brilliant from the get go. No comparison it is like comparing a jet engine to your Morris Minor.

    Not sure Ardie and Asafo were/are competing for the same position

    Ardie is too tall to play hooker.

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    @Bones Is he big enough at international level for a 6? I thought Blake Gibson, though injured and except for his hands, physically was more imposing.

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    @broughie only one way to find out....certainly plays an abrasive game.

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    @broughie
    Luke Jacobson is bigger than Blake Gibson. I support Bones concerning Jacobson's abrasiveness. He hits hard in the tackle and is not a penalty magnet. He is also very quick for a loose forward that is why he can also play on the open side.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    Aumua is a very surprising selection. Sure he may have promise but he has had a bad case of 2nd season blues. He’s been pretty poor overall this season.

    Other than that not too many surprises and I do like most of the additions.

    Aumua is a flashy player but can't throw straight

    He was awful in the Jagaures games with his darts

    Aumua is not sniffing the RWC squad unless Coles, Coltman & Harris get injured Until his throwing improves he'll remain a Mitre 10 star player

    But nobody outside of NZ cares about Mitre 10

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    @cgrant

    Fair pont about goal kicking Jordie did it regularly for Canterbury AFAIK

    Havilli plays for a better SR team & has played better this year than Jordie

    But I'm not taking Havilli over Jordie B full stop

    Havilli is next on line for the 2023 RWC cycle starting in 2020

    He can wait in line along Laumape

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    @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @ACT-Crusader said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    Aumua is a very surprising selection. Sure he may have promise but he has had a bad case of 2nd season blues. He’s been pretty poor overall this season.

    Other than that not too many surprises and I do like most of the additions.

    Aumua is a flashy player but can't throw straight

    He was awful in the Jagaures games with his darts

    Aumua is not sniffing the RWC squad unless Coles, Coltman & Harris get injured Until his throwing improves he'll remain a Mitre 10 star player

    But nobody outside of NZ cares about Mitre 10

    He played some other teams too this year apart from Argentina. Argentina is hardly the litmus test of a good or bad game

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    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @ACT-Crusader said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    Aumua is a very surprising selection. Sure he may have promise but he has had a bad case of 2nd season blues. He’s been pretty poor overall this season.

    Other than that not too many surprises and I do like most of the additions.

    Aumua is a flashy player but can't throw straight

    He was awful in the Jagaures games with his darts

    Aumua is not sniffing the RWC squad unless Coles, Coltman & Harris get injured Until his throwing improves he'll remain a Mitre 10 star player

    But nobody outside of NZ cares about Mitre 10

    He played some other teams too this year apart from Argentina. Argentina is hardly the litmus test of a good or bad game

    😂 😂

    I see we have a Phil Kearns clone on this forum 🤡

    Jaguares were the 2nd best team the Hurricanes played this year and the Canes got dusted up

    Playing average sides and looking good don't mean shit in Super Rugby

    I'll make it simple for you.......

    Jaguares are club side playing Super Rugby

    Argentina is a country in South America who have an International rugby side called Los Pumas

    If you require any more explanations, I'd be happy to help you 🙏

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    I can see the theory in picking Aumua.

    If they can iron out his creases his upside is huge. Far bigger upside than Harris or Coltman.

    They believe he has matured a lot since he showed up overweight to Super Rugby last year so they prob think he is in a good spot to develop.

    If it doesn't work you can always go back to Nathan Harris if needed.

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    @KiwiMurph

    Fair enough but Aumua not making RWC squad unless there are multiple injuries to hookers

    He's likely to be on wok experience, carrying water and holding tackle bags

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    @Jaguares4real Yeah he's still bloody young (just turned 22).

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    @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @Hooroo said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @ACT-Crusader said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    Aumua is a very surprising selection. Sure he may have promise but he has had a bad case of 2nd season blues. He’s been pretty poor overall this season.

    Other than that not too many surprises and I do like most of the additions.

    Aumua is a flashy player but can't throw straight

    He was awful in the Jagaures games with his darts

    Aumua is not sniffing the RWC squad unless Coles, Coltman & Harris get injured Until his throwing improves he'll remain a Mitre 10 star player

    But nobody outside of NZ cares about Mitre 10

    He played some other teams too this year apart from Argentina. Argentina is hardly the litmus test of a good or bad game

    😂 😂

    I see we have a Phil Kearns clone on this forum 🤡

    Jaguares were the 2nd best team the Hurricanes played this year and the Canes got dusted up

    Playing average sides and looking good don't mean shit in Super Rugby

    I'll make it simple for you.......

    Jaguares are club side playing Super Rugby

    Argentina is a country in South America who have an International rugby side called Los Pumas

    If you require any more explanations, I'd be happy to help you 🙏

    Sorry! They just all look the same to me!

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    @SammyC said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    Hansen re Akira:

    It’s the same problem he’s always had, came into the season not fit enough. He played every game for the blues and at the same time was trying to get fit so he’s a tired athlete. We didn’t see the best of him during super rugby.

    We know what’s under the surface, we just need him to take ownership. You can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink.

    Spot on, I am afraid. I was hoping after the NPC that Akira had learned the errors of his ways but his fitness and attitude were disappointing in Super Rugby this year. Could be fantastic, but could be isn't good enough.

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