What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks
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@Chester-Draws said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
Given the large number of people who have been All Blacks, there's always going to be some very large tools in that shed.
Kelleher won't come close to the worst. Both Joe Karam and Kit Fawcett would be very high up the list.
Joe Karam would be at the top of my all black douches list. For him to claim he’s the only former ab to use his profile to help people is an outlandish thing to say. John Kirwin and Colin Mead’s helped thousands of people in their lifetimes ffs
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@jegga said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
@Chester-Draws said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
Given the large number of people who have been All Blacks, there's always going to be some very large tools in that shed.
Kelleher won't come close to the worst. Both Joe Karam and Kit Fawcett would be very high up the list.
Joe Karam would be at the top of my all black douches list. For him to claim he’s the only former ab to use his profile to help people is an outlandish thing to say. John Kirwin and Colin Mead’s helped thousands of people in their lifetimes ffs
Michael Jones too.
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@jegga said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
@Bovidae said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
Plenty of stories about Fawcett and his failed property development.
I had him as a PE teacher at school.
Didn’t Grant Batty get himself into similar strife?
Teaching @Bovidae?
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@Hooroo said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
@jegga said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
@Bovidae said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
Plenty of stories about Fawcett and his failed property development.
I had him as a PE teacher at school.
Didn’t Grant Batty get himself into similar strife?
Teaching @Bovidae?
Not bad mate
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Glen Osborne continues to be a good bastard
https://teaomaori.news/constable-glen-osborne-helping-others-police-force
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@Toddy said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
Wasn't Steven Pokere sent to jail?
Yep, for fraud.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10351314
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I found Karams actual quote and response after Kirwans name was mentioned, the article is worth a read too to get an idea of what a self aggrandising weirdo he is
"If they look at what I'm doing too closely, all it would do is force them to examine their conscience, which they wouldn't really want to have to look at, because who are the All Blacks who have become such great leaders? Where are the All Blacks who have stood up for anything that is actually really that admirable?"
What, I ask, about John Kirwan fronting a campaign for mental health?
"I don't think he's putting his life out to help others. Where do we see examples of All Blacks stepping outside their comfort zone with possibly a little bit of personal risk to do something that actually helps New Zealand society? We all think All Blacks are gods, so they must be great leaders. But start analysing it. It's bloody dreadful that All Blacks don't individually do more." He appears to have forgotten men like Sir Wilson Whineray.
https://www.noted.co.nz/archive/listener-nz-2007/one-angry-man/
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@ploughboy said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
to buck the trend of failed developers and fraudsers ian hurst has done all right. is/was into resthomes and made the rich list.
There's been a few more recent abs get into investing in resthomes.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11203208
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@jegga said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
@Toddy said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
Wasn't Steven Pokere sent to jail?
Yep, for fraud.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10351314
I never knew that about Pokere ,
prior to him becoming an AB, I can remember him doing the mormon door knocking thing around Pakuranga when i was high school age
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@westcoastie Hayman at 8...who woulda thought?
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@Bones said in What are they up to now? - Former All Blacks:
@westcoastie Hayman at 8...who woulda thought?
Is it too late for a ‘called it’ or ‘you heard it here first’ post...
