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    Apr 25, 2019  /  Sport

    Wales and Scotland made to wait in World Cup player release row

    Wales and Scotland made to wait in World Cup player release row

    Wales and Scotland are among a number of nations who will not find out until next month if their World Cup preparations will be severely disrupted by being denied early access to their Premiership-based players

    Wales and Scotland made to wait in World Cup player release row

    • Premiership and World Rugby could agree deal next month

    • Dispute centres around insurance for non-English players

    Gerard Meagher

    Thu 25 Apr 2019 19.48 BST Last modified on Thu 25 Apr 2019 23.07 BST

    Wales and Scotland are among a number of nations who will not find out until next month if their World Cup preparations will be severely disrupted by being denied early access to their Premiership-based players.

    Warren Gatland names Wales’s World Cup training squad next Tuesday but the Guardian understands it will not be clear whether players such as Liam Williams, Dan Biggar and Taulupe Faletau are available for their altitude training camp in July, and their first warm-up match against England on 11 August, until World Rugby’s council meeting on 22 May.

    As revealed by the Guardian last December, Premiership Rugby (PRL) issued World Rugby with a threat of legal action over an insurance row and had vowed to strictly enforce regulations over the release of non-English players in the top flight as a result.

    That would mean Williams, Biggar and Faletau as well as a raft of Scotland internationals in the Premiership cannot join their countries’ World Cup preparations until mid‑August, only 35 days before the tournament begins in Japan. Tonga, Samoa and Fiji would also have their preparations hampered.

    The Guardian understands that PRL and World Rugby are close to an agreement and that a proposal is due for consideration at the global governing body’s council meeting next month.

    But while there is a degree of confidence from both parties it will be signed off, there is still some way to go before the agreement is finalised.

    “We are continuing to have discussions with World Rugby and while we have made progress there are still some outstanding issues,” a PRL spokesperson told the Guardian. “Positive discussions are ongoing, however there are still some details that need confirming. We cannot confirm these finer details at this stage but we look forward to further positive discussions with World Rugby.”

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    The initial dispute centred on World Rugby’s regulation 23, which states clubs are compensated by unions for injuries picked up on international duty for players who earn £225,000 or less a year. Anything more than that is paid by the clubs.

    World Rugby had agreed to increase the threshold to £350,000 but PRL wanted no limit and requested it be removed on the basis there are 60 non-English internationals in the Premiership earning £225,000 or above and 25 on £350,000 or above. That was rejected last year, as was another request to do away with the 12-month limit, which means clubs are liable for any injury longer than a year.

    The impasse – which led to that threat of legal action last December – prompted PRL to take a stance that no non-English Premiership players would be available for selection by their countries until the official pre‑World Cup window opens. According to World Rugby’s regulation 9, PRL must release players when it does open but does not have to before. If World Rugby ratifies the new proposal next month, however, those players are set to become available to their countries much earlier.

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    The Rugby Paper Team  /  Apr 24, 2019

    A record £44.4m in losses, Premiership club finances in deeper detail

    A record £44.4m in losses, Premiership club finances in deeper detail

    But Exeter Chiefs, who were the only club to turn a profit, chairman Tony Rowe says CVC money has boosted balance sheets

    Not a lot more new info. But contains a nice tidy table of wages as a % of turnover.

    Plus Exeter chairman explaining how their balance sheets are now magically healthy after CVC valued their league at 800 million, and can they can now borrow even more based on said healthy balance sheets.

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    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://www.lemonde.fr/rugby/article/2019/03/01/rugby-le-stade-francais-champion-du-deficit_5430374_1616937.html&prev=search

    google translated, so may read a bit rough.

    from Rugby365

    TOP 14 - STADE FRANÇAIS: A RECORD DEFICIT FOR THE PARIS CLUB?

    POSTED ON APRIL 16, 2019 AT 9:48 PM THIBAULT LAURENS

    For the second year in a row, the Stade Français will experience a budget deficit. After the 18 million euros of losses last year, they would amount to 17 million euros this season. That's 35 million since the arrival of Hans-Peter Wild which is a sad record.>

    From Le Monde:

    Hans-Peter Wild wants results. For the moment, the owner of the Stade Francais must rather be content with an unfortunate record. According to information from the World , confirmed by the "stadist" direction, the Parisian rugby club recorded an operating deficit unprecedented in the history of the championship of France: a loss of 18 million euros to the resulting from the 2017-2018 season, the first with the billionaire as new shareholder. That is more than half of its annual budget, estimated at around 32 million euros.

    A trifle for Hans-Peter Wild, 77 years old. Born in Germany, living in Switzerland, the billionaire spends countless. The man can afford little juicy balance in rugby: he made his fortune in the fruit drinks industry.

    In June 2018, according to a document procured by Le Monde, the septuagenarian has already considerably bailed out the coffers. On the occasion of an extraordinary general meeting, the "doctor" Wild (his university title) injected 19 million euros into the share capital of Stade Français Paris - an amount still greater than the deficit. Accounting to excess of his personal resources, and a professional rugby that involves more and more investors as expenses. Quit playing with the balance of clubs, even with their durability ...

    The National Directorate for Management Assistance and Control (DNACG) will comment in more detail on the loss in question. This independent body is scheduled to close in March its next annual report on the financial health of French Ovalie. In May 2018, the latest publication concerned the 2016-2017 season: the accumulated deficits of eight Top 14 formations amounted to 27.5 million euros.

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    NZRU released their annual report about 2 weeks ago. Seen nothing in the media.

    From the Finances POV - This year made a $1.8 million loss. The previous year (a Lions year) made a $33 million profit.

    Trucking along, nothing too extraordinary

    http://files.allblacks.com/publications/2018-NZR-Annual-Report.pdf

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    @Rapido There were articles in the herald and stuff about it e.g.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12223217

    It's the future they are worried about, a lot of the money comes from playing the currency, which is not, or may not be available(paid in US$ or whatever) - we need that big WR deal TBH

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    @Rapido Do they normally publish financial guidance for the year ahead? Would be interested to know what the projected windfall from the World Cup is.

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    We normally lose money in a world cup year, less tests, even with the world rugby pay off

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    Ricoh, Wasps and their difficult tenant news.

    Jun 7, 2019  /  Football

    Coventry announce groundshare at Birmingham on ‘very sad day’ for club

    Coventry announce groundshare at Birmingham on ‘very sad day’ for club

    Coventry City will play home games 18 miles from the Ricoh Arena at Birmingham City’ St Andrew’s after the owners Sisu failed to reach an agreement with Wasps

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    CVC and the 6 Nations.

    http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/six-nations-rugby-cvc-minority-stake-sale-investment

    Six Nations in exclusive talks with CVC over £300m minority stake

    The Six Nations has entered into an exclusive period of negotiation with CVC Capital to sell a stake in the rugby union Test competition, it has been confirmed.

    It had been reported in July that the Six Nations was in talks with the private equity firm to give up a minority share for UK£500 million (US$621 million) in order to provide a financial boost for each union competing in the championship and help grow the game.

    Initially, the deal was believed to be for an approximate 30 per cent share in the Six Nations. But with the sale now moving a step closer, it appears CVC is set to take control of 15 per cent of the competition’s commercial arm for £300 million (US$372 million), according to the Times.

    If the deal goes through, it’ll mean the company will also own a share of autumn internationals and summer tours after European rugby unions decided to pool their business into one commercial entity.

    The sale is apparently set to be completed after the Rugby World Cup ends on 2nd November.

    A Six Nations statement said: ‘Six Nations believes that investment in rugby football is vital for the long-term future of our game and this belief is central in our decision to enter into this period of negotiation.

    ‘Six Nations, together with its constituent unions and federations, has agreed to enter into an exclusive period of negotiation with an external investor partner.

    ‘As these negotiations are confidential and commercially sensitive, Six Nations will not be making any further comment.’

    From an SH interest POV, not sure what they mean by this part' "If the deal goes through, it’ll mean the company will also own a share of autumn internationals and summer tours after European rugby unions decided to pool their business into one commercial entity."

    Is it a lack of knowledge of revenue model by the financial authors? Or is something afloat. Can't be meaning the BILs , although wouldn't be surprised if they were interested in that.

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    Americas Rugby News  /  Sep 17, 2019

    RWC 2019 Becomes The Highest Grossing Ever Rugby World Cup - Americas Rugby News

    RWC 2019 Becomes The Highest Grossing Ever Rugby World Cup - Americas Rugby News

    RWC 2019 has officially become the highest grossing Rugby World Cup. Three days out from the start of the competition the tournament has already surpassed all others. Japan bid for RWC 2011 only to lose to New Zealand. At the time of the decision, in 2005, it was voted against to favor the...

    RWC 2019 has officially become the highest grossing Rugby World Cup. Three days out from the start of the competition the tournament has already surpassed all others.

    Japan bid for RWC 2011 only to lose to New Zealand. At the time of the decision, in 2005, it was voted against to favor the established order. Japan would win for RWC 2019 against Italy and South Africa though there was still plenty of doubt about hosting the RWC away from the traditional bases of the UK, France, Australia, New Zealand or South Africa.

    Approximately 400,000 tourists are expected in Japan for RWC 2019. Thus far over 97% of the tickets have been sold. The revenue from this equates to 245million Stirling which is 15million more than that from RWC 2015 in England and Wales.

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    https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/podcasts/street-talk-episode-56

    European private equity companies have asked some companies in their portfolios to draw down credit facilities on fears of a potential liquidity crunch amid the coronavirus outbreak, Bloomberg News reported March 14, citing people with knowledge of the matter.

    EQT AB (publ) and Permira Advisers Ltd. are among private equity firms taking such measures, with CVC Capital Partners Ltd. also discussing the potential of tapping into unused credit lines for some companies in the future, the people said. Representatives for the firms declined to comment to Bloomberg.

    The investment firms are especially concentrating on companies in consumer-oriented industries most likely to be hit by impacts from the virus, according to Bloomberg.

    The European firms join the likes of The Blackstone Group Inc. and Carlyle Group Inc. in recommending the preparatory measures to avoid being strapped for working capital if the economic situation aggravates.

    But also, another perspective.

    Ana Voicila  /  May 2

    Beyond the US-Mexico trade corridor - Euromoney

    Beyond the US-Mexico trade corridor - Euromoney

    As nearshoring reshapes global supply chains, Mexico has emerged as the US’s top trading partner – fuelled by deep manufacturing integration and geopolitical shifts. But with new tariffs looming and a pivotal USMCA review ahead, businesses on both sides of the border must prepare for a future...

    The virtue of private capital is that it can withstand short-term volatility in valuations of assets held for the long term – and now is the time to prove that.

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    Catching up on this, a lot of crossover now with the Covid and Sport thread .....

    From 2 weeks ago.

    CVC’s £300m deal for Six Nations rugby pushed back by pandemic

    CVC’s £300m deal for Six Nations rugby pushed back by pandemic

    Buyout group’s investment plans hit by coronavirus financial crisis

    Probably a lucky break for CVC on this one ...

    A proposed £300m deal by CVC Capital Partners to invest in the Six Nations, Europe’s leading rugby union tournament, has been delayed as the sport reels from a financial crisis resulting from the coronavirus pandemic.

    The Luxembourg-based buyout group has plans to become the biggest commercial player in one of the world’s favourite sports, lining up a series of investments to reshape the global game.

    But CVC’s biggest proposed deal — a £300m transaction for a roughly 14 per cent stake in the Six Nations, one of the rugby’s flagship tournaments, expected to have been signed a month ago — has been held up.

    The unions involved — England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France and Italy — are reluctant to press forward with fixtures postponed and a lack of clarity about the financial hit they face from the resulting lack of income from broadcasting and ticketing.

    The Six Nations said: “We have not agreed to either take a break nor to push through a completed agreement. The conversations are simply ongoing and obviously take into account the new environment created by the current pandemic.” CVC declined to comment.

    People briefed on the conversations said they believed the deal could still be completed this year, with CVC executives committed to an investment thesis around incresing the value of broadcasting and sponsorship contracts in rugby. It is not clear whether the deal’s terms will be the same as initially proposed, the people said.

    “Everyone's just saying let's draw breath, make sure whatever we're doing we're getting it right,” said a person with knowledge of the talks.

    The buyout group has made ambitious plans to invest more than £600m in the game, initiating talks with other important organisations, including South Africa and New Zealand, two of the biggest southern hemisphere rugby nations, as well as with World Rugby, the international governing body.

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    From the same FT article above ^

    CVC:

    A deal to take a £120m stake in Pro14, an annual club tournament between sides in Ireland, Italy, Scotland, Wales and South Africa, has received clearance from competition watchdogs and is expected to complete in the next few weeks, according to people with direct knowledge of the deliberations.

    expected in next few weeks is surprisingly optimistic, even 2 weeks ago, in current climate.

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    Still from the same FT article above ^

    But in CVC’s only completed deal in the sport with Premiership Rugby, there are crisis talks to secure the financial health of English top tier clubs.

    Most of the teams are lossmaking, meaning the roughly £15m each side received from the league’s deal with CVC has become vital to ensure they have not gone bust during the pandemic, according to people with knowledge of the league’s finances. The money had previously been earmarked for infrastructure and marketing spending.

    CVC has held back from taking a roughly £10m share of distributions that it is entitled to from the Premiership.

    The competition made revenues of £75.5m in the year ending June 30 2019, mainly from a television rights deal in the UK with BT Sport, which is due to run until next year and a sponsorship contract with US insurance company Gallagher.

    Premiership Rugby chief executive Darren Childs said this month that “we must recognise that when the pandemic is finally at an end, there will still be the economic challenge [for rugby clubs] for many years to come”.

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    Looking forward for the Premiership:

    Professional Game Agreement between the RFU and Premiership - is at a point where it changes from fixed sum to amount based on revenue, at the time RFU are about to lose £50m.

    Bad news for both the clubs, and for CVC who were due 27% of that.

    Apr 25, 2020  /  Sport

    Premiership rugby clubs in danger due to funding shortfall from paused season

    Premiership rugby clubs in danger due to funding shortfall from paused season

    Premiership clubs face losing out on millions in central funding because of a clause in the longstanding agreement with the Rugby Football Union

    Premiership clubs face losing out on millions in central funding because of a clause in the longstanding agreement with the Rugby Football Union which will become active at the end of the coronavirus pandemic-interrupted season. A significant shortfall could prove fatal for some clubs, with at least one thought to be in danger of going bust if the lockdown extends through the summer.

    Under the eight-year Professional Game Agreement, signed in 2016 between Premiership Rugby Limited (PRL) and the RFU, clubs are guaranteed funding from the union each season. For the first four (years), they have received a fixed amount and £25.5m for this campaign. But as of next term that sum becomes variable and, crucially, is based on the RFU’s revenues.

    It is understood the exact figure for next season is still being discussed, but the RFU is forecasting losses of up to £50m over the next 18 months and that is on the basis that England’s four autumn internationals at Twickenham will go ahead.

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    More bad timing for the premiership, and for CVC, poor work by CVC letting this expire - as they came in with intentions to increase revenues but will now share 27% of the pain after already having paid in full upfront for this privilege. Obviously thought they could get more.

    David Wood  /  Apr 26, 2020  /  Rugby

    Premiership Rugby 'facing huge drop in value of TV rights'

    Premiership Rugby 'facing huge drop in value of TV rights'

    Premiership Rugby is facing a huge drop in the value of its broadcasting rights because it failed to agree a new deal with either BT Sport or Sky before the coronavirus crisis.

    Premiership Rugby is facing a huge drop in the value of its broadcasting rights because it failed to agree a new deal with either BT Sport or Sky before the coronavirus crisis.

    England’s top division had hoped to secure a bumper TV deal but industry sources believe Premiership Rugby will now struggle to get anything close to the £40million a year it receives from BT Sport.

    AS part of the six-year deal which finishes at the end of next season, BT Sport had an exclusive negotiating period with the league but that has come and gone without the broadcaster renewing, according to The Times.

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    Even before the coronavirus crisis. Wasps who have been losing about £9m a year on average last 2 years, were again on track to lose the same amount.

    Bobby Bridge  /  Mar 12, 2020  /  Rugby

    Wasps group lose nearly £5m in six-month period

    Wasps group lose nearly £5m in six-month period

    Fall in sporting income attributed in part to late start of Gallagher Premiership season after 2019 Rugby World Cup

    Wasps group lose nearly £5m in six-month period
    The group that controls Wasps Rugby and the Ricoh Arena made a near £5m loss in the second half of 2019.

    For the half year ending December 31, 2019, Wasps Holdings Limited reported a loss of £4.99m with the main contributing factor being a £2m fall in sporting income.

    This is partly due to the four-week delay in the 2019/20 season kicking off due to the 2019 Rugby World Cup, which led to three fewer games being played than normal for the period, with Wasps' first Gallagher Premiership game coming nearly 50 days later than the previous season.

    The consolidated senior debt (as of December 31) stood at £35.7m, compared to £37m in 2018. Owner Derek Richardson is also owed £18.3m from a loan provided to the club.

    Note: they received £15m ov CVC money. And they have managed to reduce their staggering debt by $2.3m, and still losing £9 to £10 m a year. Before covid. Now their sideline events, accomodation and hospitailty businesses will also be bleeding (Hotel, arena, events).

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    A concerned Gallagher Premiership club owner has laid bare the stark financial cost the game was having on his bottom line before the economically disastrous coronavirus pandemic even struck. Rugby around the world has been placed in cold storage in the fight to combat the spread of the deadly virus. It has resulted in players in England accepting a 25 per cent pay cut and backroom staff being placed on furlough.

    It’s a dramatic pause that London Irish owner Mick Crossan now hopes will be invaluable in helping the financially crippled Premiership come up with a better business plan rather than continuing to have the majority of its clubs lose money on a year-on-year basis.

    Having made his money as chairman of Powerday, the recycling and waste management firm, Crossan first started investing in London Irish in 2013. His experience hasn’t been plain sailing at the twice relegated club, the owner even putting recent ill health down to the stress of keeping the operation afloat.

    Speaking to the The Mirror about the financial concerns currently hauling rugby in England, Crossan said: “Last season cost me £4million and I can’t afford that. Club rugby has to change. We can’t keep relying on rich benefactors. It’s definitely not a sustainable business. Everyone’s suffering.

    “This crisis may actually be a saving grace for club rugby, in the respect that everyone will hopefully now cut their cloth to suit their pockets. I honestly think it will do club rugby good by bringing common sense back to the clubs and the finances of what players are being offered. Hopefully it will give a kick in the arse to some of the agents as well.”

    London Irish have pinned their future viability on a move back to London this summer as they will groundshare at Brentford Football Club’s new stadium after spending the last 20 years outside the capital in Reading. “For a lot of things in the world, including rugby, this crisis is maybe the kick up the backside people needed.”

    from https://www.rugbypass.com/news/club-owner-lays-bare-crippling-toll-of-running-a-premiership-team-at-an-annual-4million-loss-mick-crossan/

    ripping off from a mirror article.

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    Some French club news here.

    Chilling warning for top French clubs facing cash crisis

    Chilling warning for top French clubs facing cash crisis

    A leading French rugby official has issued a chilling warning about the financial impact of COVID-19 on a number of Top 14 clubs.

    and

    here:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300002513/exall-black-simon-mannix-warns-french-pay-days-numbered

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    I wonder how much sympathy the Euro clubs will get?

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