Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If you think that the only advice is coming from the medical side then I think you aren't seeing past the necessary consistent and clear messaging.
Genuine question - Do you see a rationale for putting up the minimum wage in the midst of this lockdown? Because (rare though it is for me to agree with @Baron-Silas-Greenback), that strikes me as more compatible with ideology than orthodox economic thinking.
That's the sort of subtext that worries me that the tough discussions are not being had, and difficult decisions are not necessarily being taken. It's really easy to do more, give more, throw more money at things - it's really tough to have to choose between tough alternatives.
I think it’s pretty obvious that lots of difficult decisions are being made.
As for your question, was that decision made pre-Covid? I guess the decision process is slightly different if that is the case as it becomes a case of taking away something already given.
I think we will have differing opinions here on minimum wages as a topic but if we don’t go down that rabbit hole and focus on whether it is appropriate at this time for an increase then I guess it comes down to a desired start point to rebuild from.
Do we want a “new” economy based on cheap labour or one based on being clever enough to find ways of paying people at appropriate levels? Both models can work and eventually balance out. -
Minimum wage is reported on annually by MBIE to the Minister of Workplace Relations who reports to cabinet by end of the calendar year. Cabinet then decide whether to put it up, and if so, by how much. Then a Minimum Wage Order is prepared accordingly and approved by the Governor-general through Order-In-Council.
The current minimum wage order was approved on 17 February - http://legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2020/0009/latest/LMS310273.html?src=qs.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Hate it when I miss deleted posts!
my absolutely hilarious meme i created didn't work, so i deleted my shame
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another 67 today, total of 1,106, 3 still in ICU, 2 are now stable (so 1 has improved since being critical yesterday)
missed the exact number but 170-something recovered.
12 clusters
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see that dick that filmed himself coughing on people is being held in custody, has been tested for CV, and apparently judge is holding determining if he should be bailed based on the results...so if he is positive the punishment will no doubt increase?
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@taniwharugby Social isolation in a jail cell seems appropriate.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
see that dick that filmed himself coughing on people is being held in custody, has been tested for CV, and apparently judge is holding determining if he should be bailed based on the results...so if he is positive the punishment will no doubt increase?
that is a scum move. what the fuck is wrong with people?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
see that dick that filmed himself coughing on people is being held in custody, has been tested for CV, and apparently judge is holding determining if he should be bailed based on the results...so if he is positive the punishment will no doubt increase?
that is a scum move. what the fuck is wrong with people?
Fucker was smiling at himself in his video as he was doing it too. Should send him into the general population, let the inmates have their way with him
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
that is a scum move. what the fuck is wrong with people?
apparently as part of his post on FB, he said he had CV too...but hadnt actually been tested, results expected later today.
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Today's number of cases
- new cases: 67 - 39 confirmed and 28 probable (decline of nearly 25 percent from Sunday's high of 89)
- total number of cases (incl probable): 1106
- recovered: 176
- in hospital: 13
- in ICU: 3 (2 stable, 1 critical)
- 2 discharged from hospital since yesterday
Of the 1106 confirmed and probable cases:
- 43 percent (around 476 cases) have a direct link to overseas travel
- 38 percent (420 cases) are close contacts of other confirmed cases
- 2 percent (about 22 cases) are being treated as community transmission
- the remaining 17 percent (188 cases) are still being investigated
Tests
- 7 day rolling average of tests: 2,846 a day
- tests since 31/1: just under 40,000
- tests on Sunday: 3,709
Clusters:
- 12 significant clusters
- largest of these clusters: linked to Marist College in Auckland - 72 cases
- the other nine clusters have between 13 and 62 associated cases
- one of the newest clusters, around a rest home in Christchurch (15 confirmed and probable cases amongst residents and staff), has resulted in 20 residents of the home being moved to hospital in order to ensure they can be looked after properly and strict isolation for those who may be close contacts can be maintained.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
see that dick that filmed himself coughing on people is being held in custody, has been tested for CV, and apparently judge is holding determining if he should be bailed based on the results...so if he is positive the punishment will no doubt increase?
http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM329704.html
If he has the disease and infected someone else with it, he's looking at much more serious charges than currently (infecting with Disease, max sentence 14 years).
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@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Today's number of cases
- new cases: 67 - 39 confirmed and 28 probable (decline of nearly 25 percent from Sunday's high of 89)
- total number of cases (incl probable): 1106
- recovered: 176
- in hospital: 13
- in ICU: 3 (2 stable, 1 critical)
- 2 discharged from hospital since yesterday
Of the 1106 confirmed and probable cases:
- 43 percent (around 476 cases) have a direct link to overseas travel
- 38 percent (420 cases) are close contacts of other confirmed cases
- 2 percent (about 22 cases) are being treated as community transmission
- the remaining 17 percent (188 cases) are still being investigated
Tests
- 7 day rolling average of tests: 2,846 a day
- tests since 31/1: just under 40,000
- tests on Sunday: 3,709
Clusters:
- 12 significant clusters
- largest of these clusters: linked to Marist College in Auckland - 72 cases
- the other nine clusters have between 13 and 62 associated cases
- one of the newest clusters, around a rest home in Christchurch (15 confirmed and probable cases amongst residents and staff), has resulted in 20 residents of the home being moved to hospital in order to ensure they can be looked after properly and strict isolation for those who may be close contacts can be maintained.
So the numbers look good right. I keep hearing the Gov say they need to see more testing, more regional testing, to really be confident they're on top of this. But what I haven't really seen is what the process is to do that testing. Do they have the kid? When will they start? How many people will they test? Just those who are symptomatic? And How many tests/negative results is enough to go back to L3 or (Jesus, imagine!), L2?
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
that is a scum move. what the fuck is wrong with people?
apparently as part of his post on FB, he said he had CV too...but hadnt actually been tested, results expected later today.
That's the face of a man who deserves to have his teeth kicked in!!!
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@voodoo They're already testing regionally - Every DHB has testing stations set up. I guess they just need more. Bloomfield has said there are plenty of testing kits.
I don't think there's been any more detail than that. He did say that they are evaluating what criteria need to be satisfied to return to L3 and what a L3 scenario might look like, now. Hoped to have something out by end of week.
In other good news our doubling days have increased from 6-8
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@canefan well the good news for those he thought it amusing to couh on is that he doesnt have CV, but he should still be charged with the full extent of whatever laws he has broken.
I reckon plenty of people would have smacked him if he'd doen that to them.