What are you listening to, right now................
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@MajorRage said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MN5 yes, I've got mine for June in London, which I give zero chance of going ahead. Hopefully it just gets delayed. Pearl Jam was cancelled though unfortunately.
Gould is pretty highly rated. You won't find a bassist of a rock / metal band anywhere that doesn't name him as an influence. Bordin is certainly not the most technical drummer, but damn he hits them hard. Gives the concert huge energy.
Yeah I hear that but he gets forgotten when names like Flea/Trujillo/Claypool etc are thrown around.
You want some hard drums ? The kit pressed assault charges against Bill Ward after he was done with them in 1970....
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No one hit drums harder than Vinny Paul
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@MN5 what's your thoughts on Trujillo? Is he that good?
Don't get me wrong, he's phenomenal for Metallica and is undoubtedly a fantastic bass player, but his lines rarely stand out on any of their albums since he joined (only 2 to be fair). One of the few people in the world though can look seriously cool when playing Bass. I guess having 12foot long arms helps.
Plenty of hard hitters out there. Bordin always stands out for me tho. No disrespect to others named.
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@MajorRage said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MN5 what's your thoughts on Trujillo? Is he that good?
Don't get me wrong, he's phenomenal for Metallica and is undoubtedly a fantastic bass player, but his lines rarely stand out on any of their albums since he joined (only 2 to be fair). One of the few people in the world though can look seriously cool when playing Bass. I guess having 12foot long arms helps.
Plenty of hard hitters out there. Bordin always stands out for me tho. No disrespect to others named.
To be fair most of Trujillos awesome virtuoso stuff was with Infectious Grooves. Some serious thrash funk brilliance there. But he does keep it in the pocket exceptionally well for Metallica as well. He’s awesome at the ‘thankless’ stuff for them and whilst it’s cool to not like them they are all exceptional muso’s. ( yes even Lars ).
I think Cliff Burton was a bit overrated though, dying young definitely inflated the legacy somewhat
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@MN5 Lars only problem is that he's outdated. But he's also 56, worth well over 100 mill, and tours the world playing stadium gigs in one of the biggest bands on the planet. So I think he's ok with it.
I'm massively outdated in many ways, and I have zero of the upsides he does. He takes his criticism very well too - when your answer is I may not be the best drummer on the planet, but I'm the best drummer for James Hetfield, you are certainly pretty comfortable with yourself.
No real opinion on Cliff myself vs others.
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@MajorRage said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@MN5 Lars only problem is that he's outdated. But he's also 56, worth well over 100 mill, and tours the world playing stadium gigs in one of the biggest bands on the planet. So I think he's ok with it.
I'm massively outdated in many ways, and I have zero of the upsides he does. He takes his criticism very well too - when your answer is I may not be the best drummer on the planet, but I'm the best drummer for James Hetfield, you are certainly pretty comfortable with yourself.
Absolutely. He also freely admitted he has regressed with age, constant touring and not finding the time to practice the basics. His persona can be a bit dickish at times but shit, I can name scores of rock stars worse than him.
I think Cliff Burton studied alot of classical music which hard out metalheads respect quite a bit. Again, I've personally been impressed with others more than him but he definitely left that legacy.
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I've been listening to their back catalogue recently here's my view of their order from best to worst. No one will agree, not even close.
Ride The Lightning. It's an epic album from start to finish. I'd love a remix. Top Track - For Whom the Bell Tolls
Master of Puppets. Would love Hetfield to redo this, as the only thing I don't like is his voice. Top Track- Battery
Hardwired. Yes, higher than most will admit, but it's my list - fuck you. Massively influenced by seeing them in HK in one of my last weeks there, and it being the best concert I've been to. Top Track - Halo On Fire
Black. Metallica goes mainstream! Ish. Really heavy but with super radio friendly songs on it which saw the rise (Sandman, Nothing Else Matters). Top Track - My Friend of Misery
Load. I love this album - it takes me back to leaving home for the first time and all the joy of that time of life. It's a bit lighter than Black. Top Track - Outlaw Torn
Death Magnetic. A return to form as the band got through their early noughties wobbles and got their rhythm again as a true four-piece. Sort of a cross between Black & Justice. Top Track - Suicide & Redemption
...And Justice For all. Look, it's a great album. Potential classic and should be in their top 3. But when played on top quality audio equipment, or a bass heavy box, it still sounds like it's being played on a 1970's clock radio. I'm no audiophile, but i LOVE the feeling a hard rock/ metal song can give you when played through great equipment. That will NEVER happen with this album. Top Track - One.
Kill 'Em All. Kind of torn on this. As the songs are excellent, but I just can't stand the Mix and James voice. Top Track - Hit The Lights.
ReLoad. Jason had to go. Not his fault, but the band needed a refresh after Black, Load and then this. They got that initial refresh collosally wrong (as can happen), but then found their groove again a few years later. Top Track - Carpe Diem Baby
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St Anger. This album blows. The mix is shit, the songs are weird, and the whole thing is confused. Top Track - St AngerJust found this online about St Anger. It's spot on accurate - "Michael Christopher said "St. Anger dispenses with the recent spate of radio friendly pleasantries in favor of pedal to the floor thrash, staggered and extended song structures, quick changes and a muddled production that tries to harken back to the Kill 'Em All days. All attempts fail miserably.""
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Some Kind of Monster showed why it sucked. Look how they wrote it? Just muddled mess of shit and crap drums
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@mariner4life said in What are you listening to, right now................:
Some Kind of Monster showed why it sucked. Look how they wrote it? Just muddled mess of shit and crap drums
Yeah that was one dysfunctional movie. The Ulrich / Mustaine chat was cringe worthy. Certainly removed any sort of notion that Metal musicians are as hard as the image that goes with them.
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Ride the Lightning is my favourite Metallica album. Creeping Death, Fight Fire With Fire, For Whom the Bell Tolls, and Call of Ktulu I can have on repeat endlessly.
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@Bovidae said in What are you listening to, right now................:
I'm not a huge Metallica fan but Ride The Lightning is my favourite album too, as Fade To Black has always been my favourite song of theirs.
Do you Metallica fans listen to other thrash bands? It's not my thing but I do like some Megadeth.
Anthrax yes. Some anyway, their best album isn't on Spotify
Yes Megadeth. Rust in Peace is a fucking rad album.
Does Pantera count as thrash? Probably only Cowboys from Hell
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Puppets. The pinnacle of metal in my eyes. Every song is fucking amazing. Leper Messiah is my favourite Metallica song.
Lightening. So raw and thrashy, but amazing. Bells definitely the standout. But Creeping Death...
Justice. Yes, the mix is appalling, but the songwriting and musicianship is amazing. Standout Frayed Ends of Sanity
Black. Polished Metallica is still pretty fucking good. This is a quality rock record. My favourite is Wherever I May Roam
Load. Like you, i rate this album. Half of it is amazing. Half of it is pretty average though. Bleeding Me the standoutYou can chuck the rest in a blender as far as i care. Varying levels of okay to pretty fucking average.
But i listen to the above 5 albums (and the 2nd side of Garage Inc) like a fucking lot.
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@mariner4life I can't get past the vocals in a lot of the thrash bands. I did see some of the Testament set at the Soundwave festival in Sydney a few years back. Alex Skolnick is a monster guitarist.
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@MajorRage said in What are you listening to, right now................:
@Bovidae a bit. The vocal delivery on most is not my thing. Pantera the exception. Occasionally mega death and slayer on Spotify playlists.
It’s not thrash but only in the last 3-4 years I’ve got into Iron Maiden.
i love Iron Maiden
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@MajorRage said in What are you listening to, right now................:
It’s not thrash but only in the last 3-4 years I’ve got into Iron Maiden.
Interesting. My teenage music listening was bands like IM, DP, VH, and other classic rock/metal bands of that era, but I avoided thrash for the reasons stated. Vocals and melody are important to me.
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This would be my favourite Metallica song overall I reckon. It has all you want from them.
@mariner4life my mate was due to see Iron Maiden a week after Faith no More, as you know I prefer the latter ( admittedly not by much ) but recent footage indicates they're as strong as they've ever been as a live act.
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