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    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.

    This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
    My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
    This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.

    It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.

    alt text

    Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’

    It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.

    Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.

    I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.

    It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'

    Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.

    I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
    As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
    I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.

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    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.

    This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
    My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
    This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.

    It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.

    alt text

    Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’

    It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.

    Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.

    I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.

    It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'

    Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.

    I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
    As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
    I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.

    Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.

    I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.

    As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.

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    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.

    This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
    My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
    This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.

    It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.

    alt text

    Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’

    It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.

    Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.

    I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.

    It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'

    Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.

    I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
    As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
    I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.

    Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.

    I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.

    As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.

    It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
    I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic. 😉

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    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.

    This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
    My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
    This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.

    It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.

    alt text

    Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’

    It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.

    Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.

    I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.

    It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'

    Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.

    I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
    As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
    I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.

    Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.

    I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.

    As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.

    It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
    I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic. 😉

    Yeah they do a good feed and it's not "Hutt"ish at all. Problem is I've always been stuck driving whenever I've been there so couldn't indulge too much. I've only been to Tory Street once, hopeless.

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    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.

    This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
    My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
    This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.

    It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.

    alt text

    Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’

    It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.

    Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.

    I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.

    It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'

    Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.

    I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
    As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
    I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.

    Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.

    I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.

    As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.

    It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
    I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic. 😉

    Yeah they do a good feed and it's not "Hutt"ish at all. Problem is I've always been stuck driving whenever I've been there so couldn't indulge too much. I've only been to the Tory Street , hopeless.

    What do you think "Hutt"ish food is?

    Bogans like burgers and BBQ and chips.

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    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.

    This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
    My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
    This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.

    It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.

    alt text

    Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’

    It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.

    Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.

    I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.

    It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'

    Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.

    I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
    As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
    I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.

    Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.

    I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.

    As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.

    It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
    I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic. 😉

    Yeah they do a good feed and it's not "Hutt"ish at all. Problem is I've always been stuck driving whenever I've been there so couldn't indulge too much. I've only been to the Tory Street , hopeless.

    What do you think "Hutt"ish food is?

    Bogans like burgers and BBQ and chips.

    I got the chicken burger from memory. I think the more processed it is the more Bogan it is. It's definitely more up market than the "Tote" that's for sure. But yeah, probably a bit scary for your typical lycra wearing cycling Double IPA sipping beer piston wristed gibbon.

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    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.

    This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
    My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
    This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.

    It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.

    alt text

    Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’

    It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.

    Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.

    I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.

    It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'

    Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.

    I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
    As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
    I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.

    Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.

    I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.

    As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.

    It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
    I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic. 😉

    Yeah they do a good feed and it's not "Hutt"ish at all. Problem is I've always been stuck driving whenever I've been there so couldn't indulge too much. I've only been to the Tory Street , hopeless.

    What do you think "Hutt"ish food is?

    Bogans like burgers and BBQ and chips.

    I got the chicken burger from memory. I think the more processed it is the more Bogan it is. It's definitely more up market than the "Tote" that's for sure. But yeah, probably a bit scary for your typical lycra wearing cycling Double IPA sipping beer piston wristed gibbon.

    Hard not to be more upmarket than the Tote.

    Mind you M4L would probably love the Tote. Mass beer brands, a TAB and leaners. Their idea of 'craft' is drilling out a pool ball to stick on a tap handle.

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    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.

    This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
    My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
    This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.

    It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.

    alt text

    Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’

    It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.

    Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.

    I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.

    It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'

    Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.

    I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
    As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
    I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.

    Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.

    I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.

    As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.

    It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
    I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic. 😉

    Yeah they do a good feed and it's not "Hutt"ish at all. Problem is I've always been stuck driving whenever I've been there so couldn't indulge too much. I've only been to the Tory Street , hopeless.

    What do you think "Hutt"ish food is?

    Bogans like burgers and BBQ and chips.

    I got the chicken burger from memory. I think the more processed it is the more Bogan it is. It's definitely more up market than the "Tote" that's for sure. But yeah, probably a bit scary for your typical lycra wearing cycling Double IPA sipping beer piston wristed gibbon.

    Hard not to be more upmarket than the Tote.

    Mind you M4L would probably love the Tote. Mass beer brands, a TAB and leaners. Their idea of 'craft' is drilling out a pool ball to stick on a tap handle.

    don't forget row upon row of pokies and the rancid stench of JD and coke.

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    Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.

    You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.

    Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.

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    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.

    You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.

    Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.

    Kerurus beer is also average at best compared to Panhead and Boneface.

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    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.

    You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.

    Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.

    Kerurus beer is also average at best compared to Panhead and Boneface.

    They make some good stuff and I tend to support them (among others) as a local business. They do good stuff locally giving back to community projects too (planting for birds etc). Nice when you can actually see the results.
    They are competent brewers and rigger/growler prices at the brewery are OK but they aren't $5 a can nice for their everyday stuff.
    I am a bit of a dark beer fan and really like the Coconut Porter on a winter's night

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    @nzzp said in Beer thread:

    I just drank a hazy fresh hop IPA, cost about $10-$11 for 440ml. Well worth it, was very tasty.

    Pale ales these days are so hit and miss. Far too many piston wristed gibbons making passionfruit/ cucumber/ watermelon infused IPA or some other travesty. Then to add insult to injury is the price they fell they're entitled to charge because it's unique or isn't in massive volumes.

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    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.

    You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.

    Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.

    Kerurus beer is also average at best compared to Panhead and Boneface.

    They make some good stuff and I tend to support them (among others) as a local business. They do good stuff locally giving back to community projects too (planting for birds etc). Nice when you can actually see the results.
    They are competent brewers and rigger/growler prices at the brewery are OK but they aren't $5 a can nice for their everyday stuff.
    I am a bit of a dark beer fan and really like the Coconut Porter on a winter's night

    Yeah their Porter is decent but the rest aren't a patch on their neighbours. Their beer is just empty in comparision.

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    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.

    You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.

    Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.

    Kerurus beer is also average at best compared to Panhead and Boneface.

    They make some good stuff and I tend to support them (among others) as a local business. They do good stuff locally giving back to community projects too (planting for birds etc). Nice when you can actually see the results.
    They are competent brewers and rigger/growler prices at the brewery are OK but they aren't $5 a can nice for their everyday stuff.
    I am a bit of a dark beer fan and really like the Coconut Porter on a winter's night

    Yeah their Porter is decent but the rest aren't a patch on their neighbours. Their beer is just empty in comparision.

    They don't get into the IPA/APA/NEIPA hop battle deliberately I think.

    I don't blame them to be honest. As @antipodean says above, too much wankery.

    I like the way Epic is based around being BIG and massively hopped. There is a skill to making that drinkable and they nail it.
    I also like how Panhead have worked out a really nice balance of malt and hop variety in their APA and XPA then just stick to what is good with it.

    Totally over seeing row upon row of APA/IPAs that are nothing memorable.

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    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.

    You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.

    Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.

    Kerurus beer is also average at best compared to Panhead and Boneface.

    They make some good stuff and I tend to support them (among others) as a local business. They do good stuff locally giving back to community projects too (planting for birds etc). Nice when you can actually see the results.
    They are competent brewers and rigger/growler prices at the brewery are OK but they aren't $5 a can nice for their everyday stuff.
    I am a bit of a dark beer fan and really like the Coconut Porter on a winter's night

    Yeah their Porter is decent but the rest aren't a patch on their neighbours. Their beer is just empty in comparision.

    They don't get into the IPA/APA/NEIPA hop battle deliberately I think.

    I don't blame them to be honest. As @antipodean says above, too much wankery.

    I like the way Epic is based around being BIG and massively hopped. There is a skill to making that drinkable and they nail it.
    I also like how Panhead have worked out a really nice balance of malt and hop variety in their APA and XPA then just stick to what is good with it.

    Totally over seeing row upon row of APA/IPAs that are nothing memorable.

    Epic are one of the very first Craft breweries I think and yes, they do what they do so well. Outstanding drinking.

    Panhead APA pretty much got them the deal with Lion and I'm not surprised. I haven't met a single person who doesn't love that drop.

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    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.

    You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.

    Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.

    Kerurus beer is also average at best compared to Panhead and Boneface.

    They make some good stuff and I tend to support them (among others) as a local business. They do good stuff locally giving back to community projects too (planting for birds etc). Nice when you can actually see the results.
    They are competent brewers and rigger/growler prices at the brewery are OK but they aren't $5 a can nice for their everyday stuff.
    I am a bit of a dark beer fan and really like the Coconut Porter on a winter's night

    Yeah their Porter is decent but the rest aren't a patch on their neighbours. Their beer is just empty in comparision.

    They don't get into the IPA/APA/NEIPA hop battle deliberately I think.

    I don't blame them to be honest. As @antipodean says above, too much wankery.

    I like the way Epic is based around being BIG and massively hopped. There is a skill to making that drinkable and they nail it.
    I also like how Panhead have worked out a really nice balance of malt and hop variety in their APA and XPA then just stick to what is good with it.

    Totally over seeing row upon row of APA/IPAs that are nothing memorable.

    Epic are one of the very first Craft breweries I think and yes, they do what they do so well. Outstanding drinking.

    Not trolling,and we just ordered a bunch of beers from Epic (as Nicholas is a very good brewer), but most of their beer range is a bit 'meh'. Got their christmas pack a year or two back, with 14 different beers in it. Hopefully it got cooked, because only 1 or 2 was decent.

    Epic was amazing back in the day, and they are solid beer makers, but I don't tend to order their beers or buy them much. Supporting them through good deals on kegged beer that was going to go to waste, but haven't got excited about an Epic beer for ages.

    Now I feel like a piston wristed gibbon. Such is life 🙂

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    @nzzp said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.

    You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.

    Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.

    Kerurus beer is also average at best compared to Panhead and Boneface.

    They make some good stuff and I tend to support them (among others) as a local business. They do good stuff locally giving back to community projects too (planting for birds etc). Nice when you can actually see the results.
    They are competent brewers and rigger/growler prices at the brewery are OK but they aren't $5 a can nice for their everyday stuff.
    I am a bit of a dark beer fan and really like the Coconut Porter on a winter's night

    Yeah their Porter is decent but the rest aren't a patch on their neighbours. Their beer is just empty in comparision.

    They don't get into the IPA/APA/NEIPA hop battle deliberately I think.

    I don't blame them to be honest. As @antipodean says above, too much wankery.

    I like the way Epic is based around being BIG and massively hopped. There is a skill to making that drinkable and they nail it.
    I also like how Panhead have worked out a really nice balance of malt and hop variety in their APA and XPA then just stick to what is good with it.

    Totally over seeing row upon row of APA/IPAs that are nothing memorable.

    Epic are one of the very first Craft breweries I think and yes, they do what they do so well. Outstanding drinking.

    Not trolling,and we just ordered a bunch of beers from Epic (as Nicholas is a very good brewer), but most of their beer range is a bit 'meh'. Got their christmas pack a year or two back, with 14 different beers in it. Hopefully it got cooked, because only 1 or 2 was decent.

    Epic was amazing back in the day, and they are solid beer makers, but I don't tend to order their beers or buy them much. Supporting them through good deals on kegged beer that was going to go to waste, but haven't got excited about an Epic beer for ages.

    Now I feel like a piston wristed gibbon. Such is life 🙂

    It'd be boring if we all liked the same beer.

    I do find this surprising though, the only explanation is the courier shook it up repeatedly.

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    @MN5 said in Beer thread:

    I do find this surprising though, the only explanation is the courier shook it up repeatedly.

    I was surprised too. They are solid, decent brewers, but we just couldn't be bothered with most of the beers. Not that intersting, not that exciting, woulnd't buy again.

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    I have to admit that I don't think I've drunk any Epic since back in NZ. My comments were based on prior experience.

    So I looked at their website and can see why it may be that they have spread themselves a bit thin.

    The great Armageddon and Hop Zombie have been swamped with a raft of different variations on a theme. Good brewery though so maybe it is a period of trying to get a varied range going and will settle down?

    Had one of my favourite NZ beers last night as a treat. Richard Emerson's homage to his father 'Taieri George'. Certain it won't be to everyone's taste and the recipe always seems to be tweaked a little each release but still a nice chewy malty spicy ale.

    Emersons may also be part of the Kirin/Lion stable now but have always made quality beer. Never without nice mouthfeel. Sad to see that they no longer make that Southern Clam Stout which was salty goodness (Three Boys Oyster Stout will do nicely though).
    Lion have at least managed to get them on tap around the traps and Bookbinder is a good session pub beer. Drinks just as nicely in the summer as the winter.

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    @Crucial said in Beer thread:

    Lion have at least managed to get them on tap around the traps and Bookbinder is a good session pub beer. Drinks just as nicely in the summer as the winter.

    Their bird dog was sensational for bloody ages, but they changed the recipe or something.

    True story - I met Richard Emerson in the mid 90's when he'd just set up his brewery. Bought a 4 pack to drink with my brother, and thought he was brain damaged (pro tip:nope, just deaf. FML). Drank teh beers, liked them, but being younger and stupider was like 'can't afford to drink this, let's get a SPEIGGGGHTS MATE'.

    He's a dead set brewing legend. I still regret my internal monologue. Ah well... such is life.

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