Coronavirus - UK
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
We're open!
Ok, not quite. Daughter back to school today, and she was over the moon about it. I do have some reservations that we have been too soon, but as is the way these days, I can find Professor / Science evidence to support either way. However, she is only 6 and the daily stats issues by the NHS tells me that people in this demographic are safe. So I'm cool with it. Speaking of that, 113 today at this point, which is our lowest in a long time. Encouraging.
It does feel like the lockdown is easing in quite an aggressive manner, although I feel a sense of Darwinism will come into play. Some idiots for sure are having parties etc, that may come back to haunt them. We have cautiously been at other peoples houses over the last few days, but always kept our distance and always outside. Our social / family circle all seem to be of the same viewpoint, so it makes it easy to stick to it. Having said that, I did go to Homebase yesterday in Staines (bit of a shit hole) to get a wheel barrow, and everybody there was sticking to the rules like glue. I really think the message has gotten through and despite what the arseholes in the rags will tell you, people will be sticking to them for a while yet and far beyond govt guidelines.
Got 18 holes booked in on Wednesday at Gatton Manor too, playing in a 4 ball. Will be great to be out amongst same lads again. Well I say lads, 42-54 year olds men, at least. We won't be able to sink a pint afterwards, but I'm ok with that. 3 of us play off 20-30, with one playing of +1, it's unlikely we'll get to walk together anyway as 3 of us spray it every which way but straight, whilst Mr +1 saunters down the middle.
I think we will have a second wave, and the government will get it in the neck again. Although the polls seem to indicate that Boris still has a handy lead and it's a long way until the next GE anyway. Which I guess he's aware of. EU meddling / Brexit is starting to get back into daily conversation again now, which I guess means things are slowly getting back to normal.
All in all , quite upbeat today. Only time will tell if it's for the right reasons.
Yep uncharted waters.
Kind of glad Wales is a couple of weeks behind England.
The unitary authority where I spent most of my life - Rhondda Cynon Taff (RCT) - has the highest rate in Wales and I think the UK.
So if the second wave does hit hard in England hopefully Wales, and RCT in particular, will take note.
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@MajorRage It's all a bit mixed down here. It seems that most are observing common sense but some are being just complete piston wristed gibbons. A pub on the quay in Exeter opened up a take away service. Result: People hanging round, getting pissed and then pissing in the pub seating areas. Broken bottles and glasses all over the place, litter everywhere and all round rowdy behaviour. So pub closes. Social distancing? Not much. On the flip side, we went down to Slapton Sands (where the D Day rehearsals got an almighty pummelling) and it was all pretty cool. Not too busy, no-one infringing on anyone else's space. The noticeable difference was age really.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MajorRage It's all a bit mixed down here. It seems that most are observing common sense but some are being just complete piston wristed gibbons. A pub on the quay in Exeter opened up a take away service. Result: People hanging round, getting pissed and then pissing in the pub seating areas. Broken bottles and glasses all over the place, litter everywhere and all round rowdy behaviour. So pub closes. Social distancing? Not much. On the flip side, we went down to Slapton Sands (where the D Day rehearsals got an almighty pummelling) and it was all pretty cool. Not too busy, no-one infringing on anyone else's space. The noticeable difference was age really.
They'll label it Coronavirus misbehavior but let's tell it like it is
Sun's out, scum's out
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I read somewhere today in regard to the testing figures that a nasal and mouth swab on one person is being counted as two tests. Still to hit the targets consistently too!
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
I read somewhere today in regard to the testing figures that a nasal and mouth swab on one person is being counted as two tests. Still to hit the targets consistently too!
Think that has been debunked. The number is based on test kits used or sent out and they now report testing capacity as a separate number.
As an aside. Ms Meldrew no.1 told me the press reporting on PPE has been quite ignornant & pretty much garbage, e.g.gloves. Some are supplied & counted singly, others as pairs while packs of four gloves are also counted as a single PPE item, dependent on medical procedure.
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We have a weird phenomenon happening down here.
Locals telling each other that visitors are everywhere, ignoring lockdown, local beaches are packed, campervans are everywhere, etc, etc.
When we do a drive-by when collecting the shopping, we find the beaches looking deserted and hardly a camper-can in sight. Loads more people at work though. Perhaps it may change this week.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
I read somewhere today in regard to the testing figures that a nasal and mouth swab on one person is being counted as two tests. Still to hit the targets consistently too!
They seem to be taking a whole lot of flak for these testing numbers alright. In reality though, can people not get tests who need them? How many people weren't tested who needed a test is really the number?
Unless of course, the govt wants to test people who don't need them in order to meet some targets ...
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
Unless of course, the govt wants to test people who don't need them in order to meet some targets ...
You should sell that headline to the media...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
Unless of course, the govt wants to test people who don't need them in order to meet some targets ...
You should sell that headline to the media...
I'm sure it's out there somewhere already.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
I read somewhere today in regard to the testing figures that a nasal and mouth swab on one person is being counted as two tests. Still to hit the targets consistently too!
They seem to be taking a whole lot of flak for these testing numbers alright. In reality though, can people not get tests who need them? How many people weren't tested who needed a test is really the number?
Unless of course, the govt wants to test people who don't need them in order to meet some targets ...
Tis is a good point that seems to be lost generally. Targets or no targets, the people that matter are getting tested. Surely that is the important statistic. I think Boris painted himself into a corner suggesting the target levels which were in themselves pretty meaningless. However it does give the press a number to call him out on.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
We have a weird phenomenon happening down here.
Locals telling each other that visitors are everywhere, ignoring lockdown, local beaches are packed, campervans are everywhere, etc, etc.
When we do a drive-by when collecting the shopping, we find the beaches looking deserted and hardly a camper-can in sight. Loads more people at work though. Perhaps it may change this week.
La Famille Cato have been to a few beaches over the last week and a bit. Shortest journey about 10 minutes, longest (last weekend) about 45 minutes. Most of the visits have been pretty quiet although two of the mem-sahibs popped down to Exmouth about 10 days ago and came straight back. It was heaving with no attempts at social distancing. The pictures from the weekend at Durdle Door were pretty amazing in an awful way. Not my idea of a good beach trip even without the Rona thing.
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Apparently Brighton was heaving on the weekend also.
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How much of the rule breaking do you guys think is down to Cummings? Maybe, I give the UK population too much credit, but did anybody really change their mind about what they would do because of it? I.e was anybody planning to spend Saturday in the garden and instead decided to hit up the beach because "if Cummings can, I can"?
I think those that broke, were going to break it anyway and just answered Cummings as some sort of reason to justify it.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
Apparently Brighton was heaving on the weekend also.
I have a friend in the Sussex Police and he reckons they are having to try and move people on from the beach and the sea front in Brighton. They're getting a lot of stick for it too. Alla bit unpleasant by all accounts
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
How much of the rule breaking do you guys think is down to Cummings? Maybe, I give the UK population too much credit, but did anybody really change their mind about what they would do because of it? I.e was anybody planning to spend Saturday in the garden and instead decided to hit up the beach because "if Cummings can, I can"?
I think those that broke, were going to break it anyway and just answered Cummings as some sort of reason to justify it.
Cummings is a convenient peg to hang your hat on I feel and a peg that should not be there. Poorly handled and left things wide open. But I agree it appears to be mostly used as as an excuse by those who were looking for one. Not giving such people that excuse may have made things somewhat better but in truth we won't know.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
How much of the rule breaking do you guys think is down to Cummings? Maybe, I give the UK population too much credit, but did anybody really change their mind about what they would do because of it? I.e was anybody planning to spend Saturday in the garden and instead decided to hit up the beach because "if Cummings can, I can"?
I think those that broke, were going to break it anyway and just answered Cummings as some sort of reason to justify it.
Mrs M's son and daughter live in Burgess Hill. They have seen a growing increase in people in parks, etc for 2-3 weeks. Brighton beach was heaving 2 weeks ago when they drove past.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
How much of the rule breaking do you guys think is down to Cummings? Maybe, I give the UK population too much credit, but did anybody really change their mind about what they would do because of it? I.e was anybody planning to spend Saturday in the garden and instead decided to hit up the beach because "if Cummings can, I can"?
I think those that broke, were going to break it anyway and just answered Cummings as some sort of reason to justify it.
Cummings is a convenient peg to hang your hat on I feel and a peg that should not be there. Poorly handled and left things wide open. But I agree it appears to be mostly used as as an excuse by those who were looking for one. Not giving such people that excuse may have made things somewhat better but in truth we won't know.
A simpler answer is that people are seeing the lockdown as over, notwithstanding BoJo labouring that it is conditional. It's hard to get British people to understand a nuanced message.
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@Victor-Meldrew on a similar note - the increase in traffic around here over the past couple or so weeks has been huge. Not long after lockdown we had to go on the M25 and got a photo of a huge stretch with no other vehicles - can't see that happening again. Had to go on it again a couple of weeks ago and it was back to normal.
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The A38 between Bodmin & St Austell was almost dead 3 weeks ago. Seen a big and growing increase when collecting the weekly shopping from early May. Think it's mainly people getting back to work.
Tourist places far less of an increase. Have to wait and see what happens this WE.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
The A38 between Bodmin & St Austell was almost dead 3 weeks ago. Seen a big and growing increase when collecting the weekly shopping from early May. Think it's mainly people getting back to work.
Tourist places far less of an increase. Have to wait and see what happens this WE.
Keep all that Tribute safe!!