Favourite ( or worst ) Rugby cliches
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<p><strong>One of my pet hates 'oooh, both teams have turned up to play rugby'</strong></p>
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<p><strong>As opposed to what exactly?</strong></p>
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<p>Or the use of the word 'big' before someone's name, as if a viewer might somehow miss that forwards are tall and wide units.</p>
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<p>This one i don't mind so much. It's a clumsy way of saying it, but pro teams aren't always there mentally every game of a season, sometimes they are just off, and you can see it in their play. </p>
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<p>Like TR, i hate the "wanted it more" bullshit. Pro rugby has almost zero correlation to emotion, it's about structure, skill, and effort. Say it like it is, one team isn't as good skill wise, or their effort isn't there. </p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="562280" data-time="1457063727">
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<p>Being out-passioned or Just wanted it more</p>
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<p>That's a fucken shocker no doubt, but Phil Gould manages to make it worse in a league sense when he says one team "out origins" the other. ( shakes uncontrolably )</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="562288" data-time="1457064600">
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<p>This one i don't mind so much. It's a clumsy way of saying it, but pro teams aren't always there mentally every game of a season, sometimes they are just off, and you can see it in their play. </p>
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<p>Like TR, i hate the "wanted it more" bullshit. Pro rugby has almost zero correlation to emotion, it's about structure, skill, and effort. Say it like it is, one team isn't as good skill wise, or their effort isn't there. </p>
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<p>Mariner, hate to be "that guy" (percy pedantic), but haven't you just contradicted yourself ;)</p> -
<p>yea, a little i guess. It's less commentators maybe, and more the great unwashed who like to say teams don't play with enough passion when they are losing. </p>
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<p>Maybe I'm not explaining it well. When i played i had days when, for what ever reason, i couldn't get in to the game. I wanted to, but mentally i wasn't in the right place. It wasn't my "passion", it's not that i "didn't want it" i just "hadn't turned up to play". </p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="562294" data-time="1457065946">
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<p>yea, a little i guess. It's less commentators maybe, and more the great unwashed who like to say teams don't play with enough passion when they are losing. </p>
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<p>Maybe I'm not explaining it well. When i played i had days when, for what ever reason, i couldn't get in to the game. I wanted to, but mentally i wasn't in the right place. It wasn't my "passion", it's not that i "didn't want it" <strong>i just "hadn't turned up to play". </strong></p>
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<p>maybe you just 'shouldnt' have turned up?</p>
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<p>I gave 100% every single time, some days things went well, others they didnt, but by god I hated losing...</p>
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<p>THats another cliche you used there, they just didnt turn up...um, ok</p> -
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<p>maybe you just 'shouldnt' have turned up?</p>
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<p>I gave 100% every single time, some days things went well, others they didnt, but by god I hated losing...</p>
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<p>THats another cliche you used there, they just didnt turn up...um, ok</p>
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<p>that was deliberate, i was trying to make a point.</p>
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<p>I honestly find it hard to believe you were at 100% every game. </p>
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<p>I knew i was off sometimes, i could feel the game passing by. Sometimes i didn't realise until i reviewed afterwards. </p>
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<p>In my last year i knew it, i often went through the motions in games i new we would win. I was still effective, but my effort wasn't at my usual output, because it didn't need to be. Not something I'm proud of, but that was the reality of the situation. It was a big part of the reason i retired. That, and i had started to dislike training.</p>
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<p>Anyway, i've digressed this thread enough. Summary: while clumsy, i think some of those cliches about "turning up" have some basis in reality. While at the same time i think any link to passion is mistaken</p> -
<p>It's a bit tough, because you could argue that pretty much all comments are what we can see on tv.</p>
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<p>Do any broadcasters have a mute commentators button where you can still hear the crowd, whistle, refs etc?</p>
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<p>That would be utopian viewing</p> -
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<p>that was deliberate, i was trying to make a point.</p>
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<p><strong>I honestly find it hard to believe you were at 100% every game. </strong></p>
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<p>I knew i was off sometimes, i could feel the game passing by. Sometimes i didn't realise until i reviewed afterwards. </p>
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<p>In my last year i knew it, i often went through the motions in games i new we would win. I was still effective, but my effort wasn't at my usual output, because it didn't need to be. Not something I'm proud of, but that was the reality of the situation. It was a big part of the reason i retired. That, and i had started to dislike training.</p>
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<p>Anyway, i've digressed this thread enough. Summary: while clumsy, i think some of those cliches about "turning up" have some basis in reality. While at the same time i think any link to passion is mistaken</p>
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<p>I said I gave it 100% every game, not I was AT 100% every game, big difference IMO.</p>
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<p>While we are on percentages, he gives 110% every game.</p> -
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<p>It's a bit tough, because you could argue that pretty much all comments are what we can see on tv.</p>
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<p>Do any broadcasters have a mute commentators button where you can still hear the crowd, whistle, refs etc?</p>
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<p>That would be utopian viewing</p>
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<p>No it wouldn't really you'd probably hear bits of delilah , hey baby and hooked on a feeling etc every time theres a stoppage in play. I've never been to a concert and had to put up with snippets of rugby commentary between songs, why can't they save this shit for the sevens?</p>
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<p>Can we add rugby league in here? "Thats an origin try", a try scored in an origin game is an origin try? Well I never Phil Gould.</p> -
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<p>No it wouldn't really you'd probably hear bits of delilah , hey baby and hooked on a feeling etc every time theres a stoppage in play. I've never been to a concert and had to put up with snippets of rugby commentary between songs, why can't they save this shit for the sevens?</p>
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<p>What, like you do now?</p> -
<p>Why do players call referees sir ? </p>
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<p>I could never bring myself to suck up that much . </p> -
<p>what did you call them?</p>
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<p>Throw ba</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="562312" data-time="1457067931">
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<p>Why do players call referees sir ? </p>
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<p>I could never bring myself to suck up that much . </p>
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<p>Throw back to the old private school days</p>
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<p>For years you could argue that rugby was only really played or accessible by all classes in NZ and Wales. Everywhere else it wasn't seen as a working class sport</p> -
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<p>what did you call them?</p>
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<p>"ref" always sufficed in NZ</p>
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<p>In Aus, I too was dismayed to hear "sir he's off side" back in the 80s though</p> -
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<p>"ref" always sufficed in NZ</p>
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<p>In Aus, I too was dismayed to hear "sir he's off side" back in the 80s though</p>
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<p>When speaking direct I always said 'sir' but if it was general comment during play it was 'aw ref, he's offside' or whatever! </p> -
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<p>When speaking direct I always said 'sir' but if it was general comment during play it was 'aw ref, he's offside' or whatever! </p>
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<p>Toff ;)</p>
