Chiefs v Jaguares

Crucial

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="566030" data-time="1458441524">The Jaguares' travel schedule is way worse than that of the Chiefs. Only thing that favoured them was the bye last week. 
It will be interesting to hear whether Sam Cane is going to be cited for that high tackle that knocked out that Jaguares player. IMO he deserved at least a yellow card and not getting one may have influenced the final result of the game.</blockquote>
 
Just an accident unless he was meant to anticipate the players head dropping to where his chest was a split second before. 
Slomo makes it look like he had lots of time to realise but he didn't

SammyC

Shit cane put in some huge hits on defence. He was my player of the day

Stargazer

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="566045" data-time="1458446810">
Just an accident unless he was meant to anticipate the players head dropping to where his chest was a split second before. 
Slomo makes it look like he had lots of time to realise but he didn't
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Sam Cane has been cited: 

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Chiefs' Sam Cane cited for dangerous tackle 
 A dangerous tackle by Chiefs' co-captain Sam Cane on Jaguares' prop Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro has been picked up by the SANZAAR judiciary and could result in a ban for the young flanker. 
 The incident came in the 64th minute when Cane made contact with Chaparro's head. 
 Chaparro was then stretchered off the field as the Chiefs' moved on to claim a 30-24 victory over the Jaguares in Buenos Aires. 
 Cane is alleged to have been in breach of Law 10.4 where SANZAAR states that a player "must not tackle (or try to tackle) an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders." 
 The Citing Commissioner deemed that Cane's tackle met the red card threshold for foul play.
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Siam

Quick citing sweepstake on Sam's ban/verdict
 
Can we agree that Sam actually started at about chest (upper chest if you like) and the guy slipped or ducked and unfortunately copped it "high"? No real malice involved?
 
Ok I'll put in the first outlier: Commission decides all accidental no case to answer for (oi, stop giggling, it might happen)
 
 
Any other predictions/ number of weeks?

bbarcs

Cane will get a week. No common sense in rugby. 
Anyone been to a game in Argie? Is the fencing really a necessity for rugby crowds?

Siam

Sorry, just saw this impossibility: "even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders."
 
Go for the waist, bloke trips up on his own feet and you're red carded - nice work law makers
 
 
Still, opens the way for dwarf All Blacks. 3 touches of the ball and the opposition is down to 12 as little Tyrion runs around bending forward 2 feet off the ground :)

gt12

Just watched it on replay. I'm really impressed, and have learned my lesson for not tipping them :) 
Although I'm sure they didn't want to expose him, Moli looks at home at this level, unlike others. The single worst decision I can remember from the Chiefs coaches is taking Yamashita. I have no idea why they did that. 
Bloody fun game to watch. Midfield was good, although I didn't think that ALB was thaaaat good that he should keep Taimanivalu out. Still, as mentioned above, he's looking more at home at this level, and it isn't a weak area for us. 
I'm happy to be 3-1 as it was my hope after 4 games, but also pissed that we didn't put the Lions away.

Bovidae

I think Cane was most guilty of entering that ruck from the side. Was the citing commissioner an Argie?
 
He'll probably get 1 week but who the fuck knows with SANZAR.

Bovidae

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="bbarcs" data-cid="566070" data-time="1458451444">
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Anyone been to a game in Argie? Is the fencing really a necessity for rugby crowds?
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Fences are standard for all football grounds in South America. I was surprised there weren't more at this stadium like River Plate stadium.

Dan54

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-time="1458451746" data-cid="566073" data-author="gt12">Just watched it on replay. I'm really impressed, and have learned my lesson for not tipping them :) Bloody fun game to watch. Midfield was good, although I didn't think that ALB was thaaaat good that he should keep Taimanivalu out. Still, as mentioned above, he's looking more at home at this level, and it isn't a weak area for us.</blockquote>Agree with most of what you said except this gt12, I a bit of a fan of ALB, think he maybe a bit special in a few years. Think Cane will get a couple of weeks for being careless! But geez he had a big game.

Unco

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="566069" data-time="1458451330">
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Quick citing sweepstake on Sam's ban/verdict
 
Can we agree that Sam actually started at about chest (upper chest if you like) and the guy slipped or ducked and unfortunately copped it "high"? No real malice involved?
 
Ok I'll put in the first outlier: Commission decides all accidental no case to answer for (oi, stop giggling, it might happen)
 
 
Any other predictions/ number of weeks?
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Don't refs usually award a penalty but skip the card for those kinda incidents? Like when that Saffa slipped into Messam's tackle a couple years ago?
 
Who the fuck knows what SANZAAR will do though. May as well decide it by coin toss.
 
gt12, I think ALB was good enough to deserve the starting spot next week. Otherwise I'm fine with them rotating.

bbarcs

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="566080" data-time="1458453388">Fences are standard for all football grounds in South America. I was surprised there weren't more at this stadium like River Plate stadium.</blockquote>
 
Seems like something you can do away with for rugby games. More wondering if it's really needed for an Argentinian rugby crowd.

gt12

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Dan54" data-cid="566081" data-time="1458453781">
Agree with most of what you said except this gt12, I a bit of a fan of ALB, think he maybe a bit special in a few years. 
Think Cane will get a couple of weeks for being careless! But geez he had a big game.</blockquote>
I think he might be special too, but he hasn't been that special yet. Sometimes he looks a bit Regan King, hopefully without the injuries. 
Anyway, I say 1 week for Cane.

Nepia

That was a good game to watch. ALB has always looked pretty good in the Chiefs to me to be honest if a little raw at times.
 
Ngatai must be inching a step closer each week to the 12 test jumper? He's just nice and solid out there and will cart it up if need be.
 
The Chiefs seem to enjoy playing loosies at look, it's almost like they need to select two extra locks in the squad.
 
Ben T is a big loss (compounded of course by Laulala's injury). Dave should have asked Hansen to select the big fella one time last year to keep him in the country.
 
The Jaguares are a breath of fresh air and hopefully they can put in good week in and week out performances.
 
Tony Johnson was obviously shrilling for Matt Todd during the commentary with the way he was wahing on about Cane. Worse than it looked, it would only be a penalty on field if for a tackle and as someone noted above the bigger issue was that he came in from the side.
 
 
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The Jaguares' travel schedule is way worse than that of the Chiefs. Only thing that favoured them was the bye last week.
 
It will be interesting to hear whether Sam Cane is going to be cited for that high tackle that knocked out that Jaguares player. IMO he deserved at least a yellow card and not getting one may have influenced the final result of the game.
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At this point of the competition, i.e for this match, the Chiefs schedule is way worse than the Jaguares. They did bloody well considering.
 
You seem to be on an anti Chiefs lean here - don't forget Allardice and Horrell still play for them. ;)

Crucial

Any news on Bardoul's injury? The comms implied it was 'skiers thumb' which is a pig of a thing to heal time-wise and the strapping you need afterwards can restrict your handling ability enough that you will get drafted to the Blues.

leytonandamanda

If cane gets any ban then will Sam henwood be next in line? 
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Bovidae

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="566193" data-time="1458507978">
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Any news on Bardoul's injury?
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Broken thumb, likely needing surgery. 
 
So Seu would have to move into lock and another lock drafted in from a WTG.

Crucial

Will certainly be getting the loosie situation in more of a muddle. Especially with the need for cover at lock.
 
Could play Vaipulu at 7 (as he does sometimes for CM) but if Bardoul is also injured and out then Henwood could, as you say, be next in line.

matthew_matichhotmail.com

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="leytonandamanda" data-cid="566195" data-time="1458508254">
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If cane gets any ban then will Sam henwood be next in line? 
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he might have needed more than just sam cane out as leitch could play 7. but with seu at lock he should get a shot

Bovidae

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="leytonandamanda" data-cid="566195" data-time="1458508254">
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If cane gets any ban then will Sam henwood be next in line?
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Kolomatangi is also in the squad. As Crucial says I think they'll use Vaipulu and have Kolomatangi/Henwood on the bench.

The Silver Fern

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