Americas Cup
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@dogmeat said in Americas Cup:
@RoninWC said in Americas Cup:
First capsizing of an AC75.
They capsized Te Aihe twice.
Right you are @dogmeat I had forgotten about that.
It's funny, Te Aihe to my eyes looks smaller than Te Rehutai so I didn't think it was quite AC75 but a quick Google check confirms it is.
Comparing the two visually, there is no difference length wise but the hull shape is significantly different with Te Rehutai being quite bulkier.
From the article below:
""The bow has more volume than Boat 1", Burling continues. "Every team has broken it down differently. The cockpits are designed more for aerodynamics than coping with water issues", he says.
Water coming over the bow has a clear flow down the spillway - the wide channel that lies between the two crew areas. It also serves as a landing zone, or end plate for the mainsail and jib - which now make contact with the hull, below gunnel level. In Te Aihe the foredeck was extended back through the cockpit, forming a centre console - which is now no more.
Asked how much Te Aihe has been cannibalised for parts to be fitted onto Boat 2, Bernasconi responds: "a lot of electronics came off Boat 1, and some of the hydraulics - but not a lot."
It becomes evident that ETNZ has no intention of sailing Te Aihe against Te Rehutai. "It would take a lot of work to put it back together", says Burling"
America's Cup Rialto: November 20 - Kiwis throw down the gauntlet to Challengers
America's Cup champions, Emirates Team New Zealand, turned on an impressive first sail performance in their Version 2 AC75, Te Rehutai just over 18 hours after her Thursday evening launch ceremony.
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@Bovidae said in Americas Cup:
Coutts comes across as such a piston wristed gibbon.
So he is actually wanting to copyright "lines".
Might as well go the whole hogg and do arrows and circles as well.That man is a complete bellend, he was one of the original Americas cup intellectual property thieves to start with.
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@Snowy said in Americas Cup:
@Bovidae said in Americas Cup:
Coutts comes across as such a piston wristed gibbon.
So he is actually wanting to copyright "lines".
Might as well go the whole hogg and do arrows and circles as well.That man is a complete bellend, he was one of the original Americas cup intellectual property thieves to start with.
As the story goes Coutts has been a fluffybunny ever since his junior days
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THAT's how you keep your powder dry.
Also, conspiracy theory - there's been a bit of chat around whether UK and TeamNZ have got a bit buddy-buddy, perhaps lining up the Challenger-of-Record ahead of time... maybe also a bit of info/tech sharing? (I don't really believe that, but I might send it off to Alex Jones anyway - he seems like he'd be a yachting fan.)
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some interesting comments about the foils ainsle was using pre xmas, how they had noticeable rivets and ridges compared to these ones which are perfectly smooth (as you expect), sandbagging pre xmas with deliberately shit foils?
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@Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:
some interesting comments about the foils ainsle was using pre xmas, how they had noticeable rivets and ridges compared to these ones which are perfectly smooth (as you expect), sandbagging pre xmas with deliberately shit foils?
I don't really see the see the point. It is difficult to improve if you aren't already trying as hard as you can. They may have got their wind strength forecasting a bit off.
Perhaps they thought turbulent boundary layers were the way to go versus lamina flow with the foils. Might have given more stability in higher wind speeds. I'm better on aerodynamics than hydro but that might be a reason. They are dealing with the inviscid flow over the foil (viscosity will be different in water than air of course).
This will help you work it out:
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sailing mate explained that if the others don't feel as threatened then they wont have the same drive to develop something new, no reason to risk it, just consolidate on what you have
baller move it was true, gamble that what your kept back is actually as good as you think it is
its all the theatre of the AC isn't it
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@Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:
its all the theatre of the AC isn't it
Sure is. They were probably experimenting earlier, and failed dismally, rather than sand-bagging, but we will never know. They are such complex boats every change affects another component that affects another, etc, etc.
It will be interesting to see how they go in a slightly lighter breeze again. 6 to 20 kts is going to be a difficult range for all of them to be fast in (comparitively).
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Didn't team GBR say they pretty much rebuilt it over the break?
There was also a comment from one of the comments before Xmas about the 'package' they were using.
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@taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:
Didn't team GBR say they pretty much rebuilt it over the break?
Ainslie said himself after race 1 that just about everything apart from the hull (for obvious reasons) had been changed.
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plenty of time with both boats off thier foils out there, but Luna Rossa took it comfortably, although were a couple of lead changes on leg 2 of 4
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So Team USA 0/3 and Ineos 3/3.
Alot of floating about in the races today.
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@taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:
Alot of floating about in the races today.
Was quite amusing. In the effort to get back up on the foils they had zero or even negative VMG at times. Unless they can create an apparent wind they are tubs. Still think they are cool though.
Six knots wind speed seems to have been set a bit low for "racing".
