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    @kiwipie VAR has added even less to football than it has to any other sport.

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    VAR isn't the problem, it's the people using it who continue to make dumb decisions that is! Most of the controversy is in the EPL, not the rest of Europe.

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    @bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:

    VAR isn't the problem, it's the people using it who continue to make dumb decisions that is! Most of the controversy is in the EPL, not the rest of Europe.

    All VAR/ TMO issues seem to stem from a lack of appreciation of context shown by those that use it. Slow something down frame by frame and you can make yourself see anything you want to. Doesn't make it the right decision

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    @canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:

    @bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:

    VAR isn't the problem, it's the people using it who continue to make dumb decisions that is! Most of the controversy is in the EPL, not the rest of Europe.

    All VAR/ TMO issues seem to stem from a lack of appreciation of context shown by those that use it. Slow something down frame by frame and you can make yourself see anything you want to. Doesn't make it the right decision

    that right there is every single fucking sport it is used for. i hate it, so so much.

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    @mariner4life said in EPL 2020/2021:

    @canefan said in EPL 2020/2021:

    @bovidae said in EPL 2020/2021:

    VAR isn't the problem, it's the people using it who continue to make dumb decisions that is! Most of the controversy is in the EPL, not the rest of Europe.

    All VAR/ TMO issues seem to stem from a lack of appreciation of context shown by those that use it. Slow something down frame by frame and you can make yourself see anything you want to. Doesn't make it the right decision

    that right there is every single fucking sport it is used for. i hate it, so so much.

    Did you see the Bundee O'Aki red card on the weekend?

    Worst card in living memory, and man has it got some competition!

    EDIT . ... just see you've commented on that and agree with it. So I'll just STFU now.

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    @kiwipie Leeds outplayed us but Newcastle matched us in terms of ineptness. As a result it is really Fulham v Newcastle for 18th.

    They have a game in hand but it's against Liverpool. Unfortunately I think it is at Anfield....

    Fulham v Newcastle is the last round. If we keep matching them for points it will all come down to that result. Ideally I would like us to draw clear before then - we are a better team IMO.

    Unfortunately I think the players are tightening up now that safety seems a real chance. Break will hopefully allow Parker to set that right.

    Fortunately Newcastle players don't seem up for the battle.

    Really fortunately - Steve Bruce.

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    @dogmeat You're spot on with that analysis. Callum Wilson has been good this season as the targetman and Saint-Maximin is the main creator. Without those 2, Newcastle's attacking threat is virtually zero. I saw Joelinton against Brighton and the fact he cost 40 million and is their highest earner is laughable. Looks like those 2 will be back after the international break.

    Fulham also struggle to get the goals even when they are on top and it could come down to either club grabbing a couple of lucky wins somewhere.

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    Good longish read about how difficult it is to make the grade as a professional

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/extra/hfe5e1289y/The-Impossible-Dream

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    Some predictable results today in EPL. Man City totally dominated Leicester and won 2-0, Liverpool totally dominated Arsenal and won 3-0 and Leeds routinely beat Sheff U 2-1. And then you have Chelsea taking the lead v West Brom, having Thiago Silva sent off and losing 5-2 - West Brom aren't quite dead yet and the top 4 is even more wide open.

    City 17 points ahead of United who have 9 games left. On average, United would expect to get about 18 points from 9 games so City are very close to being crowned champions.

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    And maybe Fulham aren't going to save themselves after all. 1-0 v Villa with time running out and they go down 3-1. Combine that with Newcastle getting an unexpected point v Spurs (and should probably have taken all 3) and Fulham are starting to run out of games to get the wins they need.

    Meanwhile the thorny issues of penalties continues. The smaller clubs complain that the bigger clubs get soft pens and they get no pens and if you've seen Maguire on Welbeck which should have been a penalty/red card then you begin to think they have a point. Suspect if that was Dunk on Rashford, Mike Dean would have pointed straight to the spot.

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    @kiwipie If Newcastle win their game in hand then we are fucked. Otherwise I cling to the hope that we can match their points over the next few games and then it comes down to a winner takes all last game of the season (assuming we protect out positive goal differential.

    Worrying that our defence seems to have got lax in the last three games. We have squandered two good chances to claw our way up.

    Fulham Focus podcast is going to be a mixed listen tonight. Generally a good podcast - but think it'll be pretty gloomy.

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    @kiwipie said in EPL 2020/2021:

    Meanwhile the thorny issues of penalties continues. The smaller clubs complain that the bigger clubs get soft pens and they get no pens and if you've seen Maguire on Welbeck which should have been a penalty/red card then you begin to think they have a point. Suspect if that was Dunk on Rashford, Mike Dean would have pointed straight to the spot.

    ManUre still getting fanboy Dean as a ref? That usually results in a penalty and a win.

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    @dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:

    @kiwipie If Newcastle win their game in hand then we are fucked. Otherwise I cling to the hope that we can match their points over the next few games and then it comes down to a winner takes all last game of the season (assuming we protect out positive goal differential.

    Worrying that our defence seems to have got lax in the last three games. We have squandered two good chances to claw our way up.

    Fulham Focus podcast is going to be a mixed listen tonight. Generally a good podcast - but think it'll be pretty gloomy.

    I think everyone wants that final game to be a winner takes all shootout. Throw in a Big Sam West Brom revival into the mix and it could be an epic last day.

    That game against Wolves on Saturday morning (NZ time) is shaping up as a must win along with at least one of Burnley/Southampton in May. Otherwise there's a good chance 2 promoted clubs will go straight down to be replaced with 2 that were relegated last season - which is pretty dull!

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    @dogmeat said in EPL 2020/2021:

    @kiwipie If Newcastle win their game in hand then we are fucked. Otherwise I cling to the hope that we can match their points over the next few games and then it comes down to a winner takes all last game of the season (assuming we protect out positive goal differential.

    Worrying that our defence seems to have got lax in the last three games. We have squandered two good chances to claw our way up.

    Fulham Focus podcast is going to be a mixed listen tonight. Generally a good podcast - but think it'll be pretty gloomy.

    You have a much better draw than they do over the next couple of months however I do suspect it comes down to Newcastle playing Sheff United and yourselves in the last two weeks.

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    @kiwipie Don't know where that comeback came from haha we've been awful without Grealish and looked like we were heading for another loss until our bench (Trezeguet and Davis) came on and changed the game.

    Still think Newcastle will go down before you guys do.

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    Poor Fulham. Was a pretty dull game to be honest. Wolves had a goal ruled out for a ridiculously tight offside, Fulham huffed and puffed late in the game but never really looked like scoring and then with a minute left, Adama Traore was played through and blasted it into the top of the net from a tight angle. 6 games left and Fulham probably need 2 wins from 5 to give themselves a chance of survival by winning the Newcastle game.

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    i am telling everyone about this, a 5-1 win when in the relegation zone (not any more) priceless

    also, a bit of a side note for us kiwis, Nik Tzanev the All Whites keeper is getting a good run of games for us and earning a lot of praise, he's got a bit of work before he can take the "Kiwi womble" name off Smeltz but he's getting there

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    @kiwiwomble And today a 3-0 win against Ipswich - still not safe but moving in the right direction.

    Where is @dogmeat this week to raise some faint hope for Fulham? Looks like West Brom are about to go flying past them.

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    @kiwipie just woke to see that, 8 goals in twos games is unbelievable, we stayed up in goal difference a couple of years ago so this could really help

    Clean sheet for tzanev too

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    @kiwipie

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