Blues v Waratahs
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@crazy-horse said in Blues v Waratahs:
@bones said in Blues v Waratahs:
@crazy-horse said in Blues v Waratahs:
Still keen to see if Sullivan is going to be a running threat at this level, but ball in hand he is almost Carter like in his poise and time. Hope he develops into what he looks like he could be.
Could be like Carter but nowhere near as good in most facets except for pace.
Yeah way too early to say he is anywhere near Carter's level. He may yet fizz into nothing but it's a bloody good start.
Stephen Brett was looking like a Carter clone playing NPC and then he played Super rugby and the rest is history...
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@act-crusader said in Blues v Waratahs:
@crazy-horse said in Blues v Waratahs:
@bones said in Blues v Waratahs:
@crazy-horse said in Blues v Waratahs:
Still keen to see if Sullivan is going to be a running threat at this level, but ball in hand he is almost Carter like in his poise and time. Hope he develops into what he looks like he could be.
Could be like Carter but nowhere near as good in most facets except for pace.
Yeah way too early to say he is anywhere near Carter's level. He may yet fizz into nothing but it's a bloody good start.
Stephen Brett was looking like a Carter clone playing NPC and then he played Super rugby and the rest is history...
Ya reckon? I remember him being promising but can't remember the Carterisms.
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Now thats a good lift -
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@kirwan said in Blues v Waratahs:
@african-monkey said in Blues v Waratahs:
@bones Hmmm interesting regarding Akira. I thought he carried strongly (mainly early on) and did plenty on defence.
Someone who I do find sad to watch these days is Blake Gibson. He missed plenty of tackles out there. Sadly I think injuries have finally caught up with him.
He was working hard in the 81st minute and had what 17 tackles? Hardly looking unfit.
Starting to make his open field breaks again too, which had gone as he tightened his game up.
Talking versatility (tongue in cheek here) , but Akira did end up at seven last week…
FFS Mrs Ioane. You just saw I posted about Ioane and assumed I was having a go didn't you? If you read properly, you'd see it's a fitness concern regarding injury, not workrate. As I said, he got stopped/dropped a few times last night (even went backwards a couple of times) where you would usually expect him to shake off a tackle or two, or drive forward. So just wondering if he has/had an issue he's recovering from (I'm gonna guess at groin/hip) as his power in contact seems to fail him sometimes.
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@daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:
Now thats a good lift -
Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting. -
@kruse didnt the Saffas lift when in isolation and then when they re-entered the rugby world it was an innovation they adopted?
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@taniwharugby Yes. Let's face it the lineouts used to be a free-for-all.
I remember the SA provincial teams using lifting in the lineouts on the 1992 SA tour before the test between the Boks and the ABs. It was like the teams were often playing different games.
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@bovidae i reckon even watching U13 rugby with no lifting then u14 with lifting it looks much more organised.
I guess the one thing that would happen without lifting would bring back the spring heeled 90kg lock...
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I reckon that of all the modern changes to the game,lineout lifting has improved the game immensely.The scrum the complete opposite.
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Remember the wingers throwing a dead duck into a complete shambles.Pushing,jumping across and even falling out on purpose!!They were crap.
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@kruse said in Blues v Waratahs:
@daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:
Now thats a good lift -
Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting.To help speed up the game - one less thing to penalise.
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@taniwharugby said in Blues v Waratahs:
I guess the one thing that would happen without lifting would bring back the spring heeled 90kg lock...
My AB hopes reignited.
Lifting will probably be removed eventually. Workplace health and safety issues.
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@snowy said in Blues v Waratahs:
Lifting will probably be removed eventually. Workplace health and safety issues.
similarly tackling, scrummaging, well, all contact, even touch can get dangerous with eye pokes, broken fingers!
Not sure we can even spectate 2 people playing it on video games, RSI!
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@kruse said in Blues v Waratahs:
@daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:
Now thats a good lift -
Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting.You're just looking back with rose tinted glasses. Lineouts used to be an absolute shit fest. Scrappy forwards elbowing at each other to win rubbish ball for the halfback to deal with or get smashed by the opposing players.
Lifting in lineouts is the best change they ever made.
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@damo said in Blues v Waratahs:
@kruse said in Blues v Waratahs:
@daffy-jaffy said in Blues v Waratahs:
Now thats a good lift -
Genuine question... why did they ever change the laws to allow lifting?
It's always seemed to me that it just caused more problems than I can think of ever existing pre-lifting.You're just looking back with rose tinted glasses. Lineouts used to be an absolute shit fest. Scrappy forwards elbowing at each other to win rubbish ball for the halfback to deal with or get smashed by the opposing players.
Lifting in lineouts is the best change they ever made.
Fair 'nuff
Like I said - honest question... I think a few people have said similar things - I'll bow to the masses.
Could the same effect have been achieved done other ways? Probably.
Doesn't matter... we are where we are, and it is better than before. Like so many things, I sometimes wonder if it could have been fixed by just proper application of the laws at the time.
