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    Mackerzzzz
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    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mackerzzzz surely the likes of Norris, de Groot, Williams coming through are more worth putting work into?

    Yes but all three are tightheads. Whereas fidow is a loosehead.

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    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mackerzzzz surely the likes of Norris, de Groot, Williams coming through are more worth putting work into?

    Yes but all three are tightheads. Whereas fidow is a loosehead.

    Come on man...

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    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mackerzzzz surely the likes of Norris, de Groot, Williams coming through are more worth putting work into?

    Yes but all three are tightheads. Whereas fidow is a loosehead.

    Norris,De groot are Loose head props,Williams can play both sides.

    Fidow is a Tight head prop.

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    @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mackerzzzz surely the likes of Norris, de Groot, Williams coming through are more worth putting work into?

    Yes but all three are tightheads. Whereas fidow is a loosehead.

    Norris,De groot are Loose head props,Williams can play both sides.

    Fidow is a Tight head prop.

    And he must be about 1000 miles behind Newell and Williams if we are talking about young props to bring in and develop.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mackerzzzz surely the likes of Norris, de Groot, Williams coming through are more worth putting work into?

    Yes but all three are tightheads. Whereas fidow is a loosehead.

    Norris,De groot are Loose head props,Williams can play both sides.

    Fidow is a Tight head prop.

    And he must be about 1000 miles behind Newell and Williams if we are talking about young props to bring in and develop.

    Yep I would think so.

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    Fidow would have been a good hooker IMO. He played as a hooker in one game during the 2017 U20 WC if my memory does not betray me, and was rather convincing. His main (and big) flaw is his scrummaging. Playing with the Nr.2 jersey would have bypassed this problem.

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    @cgrant or was it Apisai who dabbled in prop?

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    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

    Fidow would have been a good hooker IMO. He played as a hooker in one game during the 2017 U20 WC if my memory does not betray me, and was rather convincing. His main (and big) flaw is his scrummaging. Playing with the Nr.2 jersey would have bypassed this problem.

    Correct. He came off the bench replacing JP Sauni at hooker in the pool game against Italy.

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    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    @cgrant or was it Apisai who dabbled in prop?

    Don't think so. But Riccitelli was originally selected as a prop. A couple of Manawatu players also played or covered prop at U20 level, but became hookers later on (Tim Cadwallader, Nick Grogan). Coltman covered a bit of prop too.

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    Frye
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    The impression I get from Fidow is that he's happy to be a bench player for the Canes and not much else. He should really have progressed by now but you can't engender someone with aspiration if they just don't have it.

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    @frye the thing with Fidow is that he was alot more dominant when he had a few more kgs on his belt. I feel Chris Gibbes made him lose too much and now he just doesn't have the same impact as he used to. I thought his scrummaging would have come along by now but it just hasn't happened, making me think he could be more suited to the backrow.

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    @no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:

    When the 3rd halfback is fucking Weber who is barely Super standard then it's hardly surprising they immediately throw TJP back in given his experience.

    I'd have given the 3rd place to Christie, at least he's young and has the potential to improve. Weber is a waste of space.

    Weber is the best option we have as a like for like with Smith at the moment. These selectors have made it clear that their priority for a 9 is speed to the ruck. That was apparently TJPs work on while in Japan.
    I think that Weber is only holding Fakatava's spot warm anyway.

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    @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

    @no-quarter said in All Blacks 2021:

    When the 3rd halfback is fucking Weber who is barely Super standard then it's hardly surprising they immediately throw TJP back in given his experience.

    I'd have given the 3rd place to Christie, at least he's young and has the potential to improve. Weber is a waste of space.

    Weber is the best option we have as a like for like with Smith at the moment. These selectors have made it clear that their priority for a 9 is speed to the ruck. That was apparently TJPs work on while in Japan.
    I think that Weber is only holding Fakatava's spot warm anyway.

    He will be holding it for another two years, it'll be quite toasty by then!

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    #1726

    What would everyone like to see more - North vs South matches OR All Blacks playing provincial rugby?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/125845566/all-blacks-bledisloe-cup-tests-in-turmoil-after-government-pauses-travel-bubble

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    I did see a headline earlier in the week that the Wallabies were trying to leave Aust early. That would still mean the Perth test would be in doubt.

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    @canes4life that headline should read After Gladys Fucked the Bubble.

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    @canes4life The cancelling of the travel bubble was surely always a possibility?

    A good plan B would be to hold a North Vs South game at Eden Park on the 7th, then back to back tests in Wellington on 21st August and 28th August.

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    Bovidae
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    Updated info:

    The first Test of the Bledisloe Cup series was due to be played at Eden Park on Aug. 7, with the Wallabies originally planning to travel to Auckland next week after regrouping on the Gold Coast on Sunday and preparing for a week in Australia. But they may be forced to travel across the ditch much sooner, pending exemptions from the New Zealand Government. The bulk of the Wallabies squad has remained in Queensland following the 2-1 series win over France, although Brumbies players were permitted to return to Canberra earlier this week. Given Queensland has only had a small number of recent cases, it may be that Rugby Australia [RA] is granted an exemption for the Wallabies to travel to New Zealand and avoid hotel quarantine ahead of the first Test.

    As long as no one is in NSW they may be OK to travel.

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    KiwiMurph
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    @bovidae exemptions aren't handed over easily. I doubt they get exemptions. Best case scenario is quarantine like last year imo.

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    @sparky Two Bledisloe's is plenty anyway.

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