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@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Developments. Andrews and Sutton saying that zero is off the table for Vic, numbers will be going up and not down from here.
Very modest relaxation of restrictions when we hit 70% first dose on or around 23rd Sept.
Also talking about hitting 70% double dosed in Oct and 80% in early November, which seems wildly optimistic.
This estimates 70% in 64 days so 1st week of Nov, 80% by 22 Nov - but those dates firm up as you get closer obviously
When the governments talk about the 70% / 80% targets, do we know if they're referring to 16+?
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Developments. Andrews and Sutton saying that zero is off the table for Vic, numbers will be going up and not down from here.
Very modest relaxation of restrictions when we hit 70% first dose on or around 23rd Sept.
Also talking about hitting 70% double dosed in Oct and 80% in early November, which seems wildly optimistic.
This estimates 70% in 64 days so 1st week of Nov, 80% by 22 Nov - but those dates firm up as you get closer obviously
https://covidlive.com.au/vicWhen the governments talk about the 70% / 80% targets, do we know if they're referring to 16+?
Not sure mate, suspect they stay deliberately vague to allow for maximum wiggle room. But you'd hope so.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Developments. Andrews and Sutton saying that zero is off the table for Vic, numbers will be going up and not down from here.
Very modest relaxation of restrictions when we hit 70% first dose on or around 23rd Sept.
Also talking about hitting 70% double dosed in Oct and 80% in early November, which seems wildly optimistic.
This estimates 70% in 64 days so 1st week of Nov, 80% by 22 Nov - but those dates firm up as you get closer obviously
When the governments talk about the 70% / 80% targets, do we know if they're referring to 16+?
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Developments. Andrews and Sutton saying that zero is off the table for Vic, numbers will be going up and not down from here.
Very modest relaxation of restrictions when we hit 70% first dose on or around 23rd Sept.
Also talking about hitting 70% double dosed in Oct and 80% in early November, which seems wildly optimistic.
This estimates 70% in 64 days so 1st week of Nov, 80% by 22 Nov - but those dates firm up as you get closer obviously
https://covidlive.com.au/vicWhen the governments talk about the 70% / 80% targets, do we know if they're referring to 16+?
Not sure mate, suspect they stay deliberately vague to allow for maximum wiggle room. But you'd hope so.
Hmm, that answer doesn't make me very comfortable. Wiggle room in this kind of situation just means deferring the arguments until later when it's much more urgent.
Just been to check on the Dept of Health website, and yeah it looks like their %ages are all based on 16+ too.
Which begs the question why are we wasting good vaccine on 12-16 year olds? They're not going help us hit the target. Get to the back of the queue kiddos, you can have your go when we've finally converted enough boomers and Pete Evans followers to allow us to open the pubs again.
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@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Developments. Andrews and Sutton saying that zero is off the table for Vic, numbers will be going up and not down from here.
Very modest relaxation of restrictions when we hit 70% first dose on or around 23rd Sept.
Also talking about hitting 70% double dosed in Oct and 80% in early November, which seems wildly optimistic.
This estimates 70% in 64 days so 1st week of Nov, 80% by 22 Nov - but those dates firm up as you get closer obviously
When the governments talk about the 70% / 80% targets, do we know if they're referring to 16+?
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Developments. Andrews and Sutton saying that zero is off the table for Vic, numbers will be going up and not down from here.
Very modest relaxation of restrictions when we hit 70% first dose on or around 23rd Sept.
Also talking about hitting 70% double dosed in Oct and 80% in early November, which seems wildly optimistic.
This estimates 70% in 64 days so 1st week of Nov, 80% by 22 Nov - but those dates firm up as you get closer obviously
https://covidlive.com.au/vicWhen the governments talk about the 70% / 80% targets, do we know if they're referring to 16+?
Not sure mate, suspect they stay deliberately vague to allow for maximum wiggle room. But you'd hope so.
Hmm, that answer doesn't make me very comfortable. Wiggle room in this kind of situation just means deferring the arguments until later when it's much more urgent.
Just been to check on the Dept of Health website, and yeah it looks like their %ages are all based on 16+ too.
Which begs the question why are we wasting good vaccine on 12-16 year olds? They're not going help us hit the target. Get to the back of the queue kiddos, you can have your go when we've finally converted enough boomers and Pete Evans followers to allow us to open the pubs again.
I hear you, though you'd think the number of 12-15yr olds getting jabbed would be pretty low? Unless they have underlying issues, in which case its hard to begrudge them in favor of me getting travle again...
I have a 12yr of, have no plans to book him in any time soon - in fact will probably only do it if the post-80% restrictions impact him
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Developments. Andrews and Sutton saying that zero is off the table for Vic, numbers will be going up and not down from here.
Very modest relaxation of restrictions when we hit 70% first dose on or around 23rd Sept.
Also talking about hitting 70% double dosed in Oct and 80% in early November, which seems wildly optimistic.
This estimates 70% in 64 days so 1st week of Nov, 80% by 22 Nov - but those dates firm up as you get closer obviously
When the governments talk about the 70% / 80% targets, do we know if they're referring to 16+?
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Developments. Andrews and Sutton saying that zero is off the table for Vic, numbers will be going up and not down from here.
Very modest relaxation of restrictions when we hit 70% first dose on or around 23rd Sept.
Also talking about hitting 70% double dosed in Oct and 80% in early November, which seems wildly optimistic.
This estimates 70% in 64 days so 1st week of Nov, 80% by 22 Nov - but those dates firm up as you get closer obviously
https://covidlive.com.au/vicWhen the governments talk about the 70% / 80% targets, do we know if they're referring to 16+?
Not sure mate, suspect they stay deliberately vague to allow for maximum wiggle room. But you'd hope so.
Hmm, that answer doesn't make me very comfortable. Wiggle room in this kind of situation just means deferring the arguments until later when it's much more urgent.
Just been to check on the Dept of Health website, and yeah it looks like their %ages are all based on 16+ too.
Which begs the question why are we wasting good vaccine on 12-16 year olds? They're not going help us hit the target. Get to the back of the queue kiddos, you can have your go when we've finally converted enough boomers and Pete Evans followers to allow us to open the pubs again.
I hear you, though you'd think the number of 12-15yr olds getting jabbed would be pretty low? Unless they have underlying issues, in which case its hard to begrudge them in favor of me getting travle again...
I have a 12yr of, have no plans to book him in any time soon - in fact will probably only do it if the post-80% restrictions impact him
Yeah I joking obviously. I thought they said they'd be opening up Pfizer to 12+ pretty soon, but dunno what "soon" means.
My 13yo is keen to get it as soon as she can, she's been talking about it with her friends and they all seem to be of the same view. Which is fine by me, I'm more concerned about her getting covid than any side effects.
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@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Developments. Andrews and Sutton saying that zero is off the table for Vic, numbers will be going up and not down from here.
Very modest relaxation of restrictions when we hit 70% first dose on or around 23rd Sept.
Also talking about hitting 70% double dosed in Oct and 80% in early November, which seems wildly optimistic.
This estimates 70% in 64 days so 1st week of Nov, 80% by 22 Nov - but those dates firm up as you get closer obviously
When the governments talk about the 70% / 80% targets, do we know if they're referring to 16+?
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@gibbonrib said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Developments. Andrews and Sutton saying that zero is off the table for Vic, numbers will be going up and not down from here.
Very modest relaxation of restrictions when we hit 70% first dose on or around 23rd Sept.
Also talking about hitting 70% double dosed in Oct and 80% in early November, which seems wildly optimistic.
This estimates 70% in 64 days so 1st week of Nov, 80% by 22 Nov - but those dates firm up as you get closer obviously
https://covidlive.com.au/vicWhen the governments talk about the 70% / 80% targets, do we know if they're referring to 16+?
Not sure mate, suspect they stay deliberately vague to allow for maximum wiggle room. But you'd hope so.
Hmm, that answer doesn't make me very comfortable. Wiggle room in this kind of situation just means deferring the arguments until later when it's much more urgent.
Just been to check on the Dept of Health website, and yeah it looks like their %ages are all based on 16+ too.
Which begs the question why are we wasting good vaccine on 12-16 year olds? They're not going help us hit the target. Get to the back of the queue kiddos, you can have your go when we've finally converted enough boomers and Pete Evans followers to allow us to open the pubs again.
I hear you, though you'd think the number of 12-15yr olds getting jabbed would be pretty low? Unless they have underlying issues, in which case its hard to begrudge them in favor of me getting travle again...
I have a 12yr of, have no plans to book him in any time soon - in fact will probably only do it if the post-80% restrictions impact him
Yeah I joking obviously. I thought they said they'd be opening up Pfizer to 12+ pretty soon, but dunno what "soon" means.
My 13yo is keen to get it as soon as she can, she's been talking about it with her friends and they all seem to be of the same view. Which is fine by me, I'm more concerned about her getting covid than any side effects.
I think it's Sep 13th isn't it?!!
Edit - link here https://www.pm.gov.au/media/children-aged-12-15-years-now-eligible-covid-19-vaccine
Further edit - re your daughter, that's good, we have seen that attitude from the neighbours kids who are in the 16-18 range, all their friends are getting vaccinated. If my 12yr old wanted to get it I wouldn't stop him, I'm just not going to push him towards it. I'm really not worried about my kids catching it and actually getting sick from it.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
It's a deliberately high target but I'm encouraged by the messaging coming out of NSW. Now that people I care about are vaccinated, I don't care about those in the remaining 20-30% who elect not to be vaccinated.
What will be interesting is how places like WA, SA and Qld pivot.
I think SA will be pretty good given they’ve historically had the largest proportion of people aged 65+ than any other state (I think Tassie might be right there with them).
The challenge is the other two states, but one is saying nothing to see here we are Covid free (WA) and the other is saying ridiculous things in the parliament today about kids and trying to scaremonger (Qld)
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@act-crusader said in Coronavirus - Australia:
The challenge is the other two states, but one is saying nothing to see here we are Covid free (WA) and the other is saying ridiculous things in the parliament today about kids and trying to scaremonger (Qld)
It never makes sense politically to hitch your wagon to an outcome you can't fully control. Double that for something like COVID where you have to think after NZ and Victoria an irreversible breach is just a matter of time.
Therefore the only conclusion I can draw is that Palaszczuk genuinely believes what she is saying here and that through a mix of the current protocol and Billy Moore screaming Queenslander repeatedly they and their kids will safe?
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@rotated said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@act-crusader said in Coronavirus - Australia:
The challenge is the other two states, but one is saying nothing to see here we are Covid free (WA) and the other is saying ridiculous things in the parliament today about kids and trying to scaremonger (Qld)
It never makes sense politically to hitch your wagon to an outcome you can't fully control. Double that for something like COVID where you have to think after NZ and Victoria an irreversible breach is just a matter of time.
Therefore the only conclusion I can draw is that Palaszczuk genuinely believes what she is saying here and that through a mix of the current protocol and Billy Moore screaming Queenslander repeatedly they and their kids will safe?
Bit weird isn't it? Thing is that even she and McGowan are 100% successful at controlling COVID for a few more months, at some point they have to let it in when we reach 80% (or whatever number McGowan thinks should apply to WA). And then they run the risk that by opening the borders, which would be both inevitable and popular, it looks like failure even though they've actually been very successful
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@act-crusader said in Coronavirus - Australia:
saying ridiculous things in the parliament today about kids and trying to scaremonger
that was pretty fucked aye?
it's easy to see where my pessimism comes from. In all honestly it looks like they are reaching for reasons to stay shut. I genuinely don't know why?
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@mariner4life because the Palace Chook is a fucking dickhead?
Because WA is still operating under the belief that their strong resources sector makes them utterly independent of everyone for as long as they like?
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176 cases in vic....fuck
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
176 cases in vic....fuck
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@mariner4life cheers. It was either that or
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the really are clueless though, it was only 2 days again they were happy to say in the official press conference they thought we had hit a plateau and were getting it under control
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
the really are clueless though, it was only 2 days again they were happy to say in the office press conference they thought we had hit a plateau and were getting it under control
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