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    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    I get that it has changed his character

    TBF, and movie universe only, for all the hype Boba Fett wasn't really much of a character, he was cool though. No matter what they did here he'd lose some of that mystique.

    Exactly, what "character" did they change? He was a guy in suit that was mysterious. That's not a character, it's a poster.

    The article refers to a wider view than the movies (Clone Wars, Novels, Comics)

    Novels/Comics (unless recent) won't be canon and he was a kid in Clone Wars. I skimmed the article, was silly.

    What was silly about it?

    The premise.

    It only works if they ignore the plot of the series, as Crucial has pointed out, is that his time with the Raiders changed him. He didn't "patiently embed" himself with them, he was wounded and recovering, and grew to respect their culture.

    The last episode spelled it clearly, he saw a better way to live and is now trying to build it. Otherwise known as a character arc.

    We can quibble with some of the excecution, the mod bikers weren't to my taste for example. But that is just personal taste at the end of the day. Any jarring things like that tend to settle on rewatches, like most of the weird prequel shit.

    The show is fine, the character is not "ruined".

    I've blocked Crucial so haven't read anything from him but I'm not sure how the premise can be "silly". Ultimately it's about the character being changed and arguing that it isn't for the better. I agree with that. You disagree, fine. But it doesn't make it "silly".

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    I get that it has changed his character

    TBF, and movie universe only, for all the hype Boba Fett wasn't really much of a character, he was cool though. No matter what they did here he'd lose some of that mystique.

    Exactly, what "character" did they change? He was a guy in suit that was mysterious. That's not a character, it's a poster.

    The article refers to a wider view than the movies (Clone Wars, Novels, Comics)

    Novels/Comics (unless recent) won't be canon and he was a kid in Clone Wars. I skimmed the article, was silly.

    What was silly about it?

    The premise.

    It only works if they ignore the plot of the series, as Crucial has pointed out, is that his time with the Raiders changed him. He didn't "patiently embed" himself with them, he was wounded and recovering, and grew to respect their culture.

    The last episode spelled it clearly, he saw a better way to live and is now trying to build it. Otherwise known as a character arc.

    We can quibble with some of the excecution, the mod bikers weren't to my taste for example. But that is just personal taste at the end of the day. Any jarring things like that tend to settle on rewatches, like most of the weird prequel shit.

    The show is fine, the character is not "ruined".

    I've blocked Crucial so haven't read anything from him but I'm not sure how the premise can be "silly". Ultimately it's about the character being changed and arguing that it isn't for the better. I agree with that. You disagree, fine. But it doesn't make it "silly".

    It’s silly to ignore the plot to have to make their point. You can substitute incompetent if you prefer.

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    @kirwan like arguing with two people when you can only see what one of them is saying, cant ignore stuff 😉

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    Watching again with my boys…..how did Bib Fortuna double cross Boba ?

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    @mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Watching again with my boys…..how did Bib Fortuna double cross Boba ?

    Was he the "stuffed pig" he was talking about? Was wondering if it was Jabba or Bib. And yes, how was he double crossed? Doesn't everyone thing he's dead.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Watching again with my boys…..how did Bib Fortuna double cross Boba ?

    Was he the "stuffed pig" he was talking about? Was wondering if it was Jabba or Bib. And yes, how was he double crossed? Doesn't everyone thing he's dead.

    Exactly what we were wondering……

    It is gearing up for some excitement though. Boba is back at full strength and one would imagine some old chums turn up to help out. I reckon the Pikes will try and storm Jabbas Palace and we might get a “Scarface” type shootout where they say hello to Bobas little friends.

    Those poor Gamoreans are toast, they’re loyal, strong and tough but don’t seem very bright. Some baddie will off them pretty quick….

    Speaking of baddies I hope there’s some kind of leader or tough guy…..killing endless foot soldiers gets boring. It might be Bossk or someone else familiar.

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    @mn5 my son and I wonder if it’s Emilia Clarke’s character from Solo.

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    @kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @mn5 my son and I wonder if it’s Emilia Clarke’s character from Solo.

    Fuck I hope not…..but then again I can’t stand Emily whatshername.

    I hope the droid rat catcher gets more scenes. He was fun.

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    @mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Watching again with my boys…..how did Bib Fortuna double cross Boba ?

    Was he the "stuffed pig" he was talking about? Was wondering if it was Jabba or Bib. And yes, how was he double crossed? Doesn't everyone thing he's dead.

    Exactly what we were wondering……

    It is gearing up for some excitement though. Boba is back at full strength and one would imagine some old chums turn up to help out. I reckon the Pikes will try and storm Jabbas Palace and we might get a “Scarface” type shootout where they say hello to Bobas little friends.

    Those poor Gamoreans are toast, they’re loyal, strong and tough but don’t seem very bright. Some baddie will off them pretty quick….

    Speaking of baddies I hope there’s some kind of leader or tough guy…..killing endless foot soldiers gets boring. It might be Bossk or someone else familiar.

    After the Luke cameo in Mando I think it's a fairly safe bet that one of the OT characters will make an appearance. I believe the money is on Han.

    Actually where they might have missed a trick in this series is having flashbacks from various points of his career. Imagine a scene with him and Vader!

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    Ok, watching it right now…I’m confused

    I had though the Tusken story line was in the weeks m/months after RotJ but he’s just found fennec….but I thought the mando story line was 9 ABY….

    Was he in the sarlac pit for years? Or was he with the Tuscans for years?

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    @kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Ok, watching it right now…I’m confused

    I had though the Tusken story line was in the weeks m/months after RotJ but he’s just found fennec….but I thought the mando story line was 9 ABY….

    Was he in the sarlac pit for years? Or was he with the Tuscans for years?

    Good question. He surely couldn't have survived in the sarlac pit for years and so must have spent 4+ years with the Tuscans. Or he was wandering the desert on his Bantha for all that time? Is Mando definitely 9 ABY?

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    @rancid-schnitzel just looked it up and RotJ is 4ABY and mando is 9ABY so there is 5 years between him going into the pit and mando fighting fennec

    So maybe he was with the Tuscan’s for years, might explain the change in character

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    @kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel just looked it up and RotJ is 4ABY and mando is 9ABY so there is 5 years between him going into the pit and mando fighting fennec

    So maybe he was with the Tuscan’s for years, might explain the change in character

    Yeah it makes sense in terms of his change. Problem is that I didn't want to see that character. I wanted the bad ass "no disintegration" guy. No issue if he later has a character arc where he becomes a nice dude, but can I please see him rip shit up first.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel just looked it up and RotJ is 4ABY and mando is 9ABY so there is 5 years between him going into the pit and mando fighting fennec

    So maybe he was with the Tuscan’s for years, might explain the change in character

    Yeah it makes sense in terms of his change. Problem is that I didn't want to see that character. I wanted the bad ass "no disintegration" guy. No issue if he later has a character arc where he becomes a nice dude, but can I please see him rip shit up first.

    He was pretty ruthless gunning down those bikers which I enjoyed

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    @mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel just looked it up and RotJ is 4ABY and mando is 9ABY so there is 5 years between him going into the pit and mando fighting fennec

    So maybe he was with the Tuscan’s for years, might explain the change in character

    Yeah it makes sense in terms of his change. Problem is that I didn't want to see that character. I wanted the bad ass "no disintegration" guy. No issue if he later has a character arc where he becomes a nice dude, but can I please see him rip shit up first.

    He was pretty ruthless gunning down those bikers which I enjoyed

    The Boba we know and love would have done that to the Sand People who enslaved him.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel just looked it up and RotJ is 4ABY and mando is 9ABY so there is 5 years between him going into the pit and mando fighting fennec

    So maybe he was with the Tuscan’s for years, might explain the change in character

    Yeah it makes sense in terms of his change. Problem is that I didn't want to see that character. I wanted the bad ass "no disintegration" guy. No issue if he later has a character arc where he becomes a nice dude, but can I please see him rip shit up first.

    He was pretty ruthless gunning down those bikers which I enjoyed

    The Boba we know and love would have done that to the Sand People who enslaved him.

    Yeah but he was weak and probably needed them

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    @mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @rancid-schnitzel just looked it up and RotJ is 4ABY and mando is 9ABY so there is 5 years between him going into the pit and mando fighting fennec

    So maybe he was with the Tuscan’s for years, might explain the change in character

    Yeah it makes sense in terms of his change. Problem is that I didn't want to see that character. I wanted the bad ass "no disintegration" guy. No issue if he later has a character arc where he becomes a nice dude, but can I please see him rip shit up first.

    He was pretty ruthless gunning down those bikers which I enjoyed

    The Boba we know and love would have done that to the Sand People who enslaved him.

    Yeah but he was weak and probably needed them

    Boba doesn't get weak dammit!

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    Decent article here:

    John Saavedra  /  Jan 20, 2022

    Can The Mandalorian Save The Book of Boba Fett?

    Can The Mandalorian Save The Book of Boba Fett?

    The Book of Boba Fett needs a lifeline, and the Mandalorian may be just the Star Wars character to save it.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Decent article here:

    John Saavedra  /  Jan 20, 2022

    Can The Mandalorian Save The Book of Boba Fett?

    Can The Mandalorian Save The Book of Boba Fett?

    The Book of Boba Fett needs a lifeline, and the Mandalorian may be just the Star Wars character to save it.

    Short answer, yes.

    Great seeing old mate back again although it was basically an episode of Mando…..I really liked it though.

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