Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 id be interested in what the deal was there, to what extent do they sign away their likeness to the character etc, where they have made animated versions of characters, do they get a royalty?
No idea but you’d certainly hope his family got a slice of the pie. Peter Cushing was part of history when he made the original.
….then again and as if to totally contradict the previous sentence ( in fact in typical fern fashion it does ) whilst I loved Alec Guinness as Obi Wan I think Ewen McGregor nailed the role EVEN better…..so there won’t be any issues there when the Kenobi show airs on Disney……I’m definitely eating humble pie on that one cos I hated the idea of that junkie loser from Trainspotting taking over such a beloved role, I think I spat coffee all over the room when I read about it in the Sunday News. If the internet was more widely available in the late 90s it would have gone into meltdown with all my complaining.
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@mn5 yeah, its really got me thinking, to what extent could they CGI up old character, maybe change enough so as to not need to compensate them, im sure there would be an actors strike or something if they took the piss
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 yeah, its really got me thinking, to what extent could they CGI up old character, maybe change enough so as to not need to compensate them, im sure there would be an actors strike or something if they took the piss
If they look too old or they’re dead I have no issue.
But I guess when they want Salma Hayek to look closer to 40 than 50 and her tits to look perkier there might be a few grey areas.
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 its awesome but it also makes me even more annoyed they just threw it all away
why couldn't the sequels be about a new dark side rising, luke and his padewans tracking it down or something...keep building on things rather than CNTL+ALT+DEL
Because the idiots in charge are morons who farked it up royally. It still astonishes me that there wasn't a fixed plan for the 3 films. They literally just made it up as they went along.
They could have gotten a room full of fan boys who would have come up with better ideas and would happily have paid Disney for the privilege. I don't know who they had writing but it was clear they knew sweet fa about SW.
But yeah, the potential for cool shit was endless, and we didn't even get to see Luke, Han and Leia together on screen. I know it's a vain hope but God I wish they'd retcon that shit and just pretend it never happened. All the ingredients are there for some epic tales. It just needs to be in the hands of someone who can tell a compelling story and develop good characters.
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I reckon the CGI/de-aging or whatever has improved significantly since Rogue 1. I recall Leia being a little dodgy looking in that one. I was a bit apprehensive about Luke this time but forgot all about the tech after a while it was that good. Tbh I'd have no problem with them going forward with that and I'm 99% positive they will. Anything with Luke breaks viewing records. Makes the decision to destroy his character in TLJ even more baffling. After all, he's the character that the franchise was mostly built upon.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I reckon the CGI/de-aging or whatever has improved significantly since Rogue 1. I recall Leia being a little dodgy looking in that one. I was a bit apprehensive about Luke this time but forgot all about the tech after a while it was that good. Tbh I'd have no problem with them going forward with that and I'm 99% positive they will. Anything with Luke breaks viewing records. Makes the decision to destroy his character in TLJ even more baffling. After all, he's the character that the franchise was mostly built upon.
Yeah I dunno, one of them yes but Han was on just as many lunch boxes as Luke was in the 70s and 80s and of course they realised what an iconic villain Darth Vader was hence they gave him a trilogy back story.
But yeah, Lukes grumpy old man efforts tarnished his legacy massively in my opinion.
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we all know it was built on the back of R2 and c3po...only characters to be in all nine main continuity but also made it into rogue one
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
we all know it was built on the back of R2 and c3po...only characters to be in all nine main continuity but also made it into rogue one
And all of the canon animated stuff as well.
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Chopper's my fav...little psychopath
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In all honesty, I'd prefer they just use Sebastian Stan than any CGI options.
On IMDB I think we have to be wary about the accuracy. I was listening to a podcast and Edgar Wright was saying that he had to name a character otherwise someone else would and that would be a spoiler.
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I reckon the CGI/de-aging or whatever has improved significantly since Rogue 1. I recall Leia being a little dodgy looking in that one. I was a bit apprehensive about Luke this time but forgot all about the tech after a while it was that good. Tbh I'd have no problem with them going forward with that and I'm 99% positive they will. Anything with Luke breaks viewing records. Makes the decision to destroy his character in TLJ even more baffling. After all, he's the character that the franchise was mostly built upon.
Yeah I dunno, one of them yes but Han was on just as many lunch boxes as Luke was in the 70s and 80s and of course they realised what an iconic villain Darth Vader was hence they gave him a trilogy back story.
But yeah, Lukes grumpy old man efforts tarnished his legacy massively in my opinion.
Of course the other characters were huge but Luke was the guy all the kids wanted to be. At least I did. Or Wedge. Fark Wedge is the unsung hero of the Rebellion.
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I’d say Han and even Vader were much bigger, at least with me and my friends
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I’d say Han and even Vader were much bigger, at least with me and my friends
Much bigger? Have to disagree there. At the end of the day Luke is the glue that binds it all together. It's his story.
It's awesome that they want to focus on others but I wish they didn't have to destroy or kill the existing favourites to do it. It's not new though. Transformers the Movie basically massacred the old characters to make way for the new toys, I mean characters.
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BTW, if given the choice would people want to continue to see what Boba is up to or follow the Mando-Grogu plot arc? I reckon most would go Mando. Makes you wonder how much time and effort was put into Boba vs Mando.
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@rancid-schnitzel as i say, i was only talking from me and my fields point of view, dont remember anyone wanting play luke. i think the point is several characters transcend the intended narrative, Vader would be one of the first times i ever remember thinking a "bad guy" was cool, Han is written like a bit of an arsehole....but hugely popular...Bobo has 6 minuites of screen time in the whole OT and he was hugely popular
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Then there's that long held fan theory that SW is R2's story. For a while there was a thought that the whole thing would tie up to being a history lesson from R2. I think that came in part from Lucas talking about the book of whills and a theory that R2 had the only copy in his memory.
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