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    @pakman and yet that was done without huge bashers. It was a connected and skilled team.
    It is a bit of an unfair example really as it was peak performance but yes, it is a good example of not just 'getting more numbers' to the breakdown which meant that successive breakdowns had the support they needed.

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    @dan54 All Blacks have been poor, especially since 2020. Ireland are a better team. There is no negativity in that statement, it is what it is. Wouldn't an arrogant NZ supporter believe we will win in June? I just can't believe the articles in NZ surprised that Six Nations is faster and more physical than Super rugby etc, etc. NZ supporters do kind of live in a bubble if they think the ABs are still a world force. They potentially can be of course but.....some deep thinking and changes are needed.

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    i think the teams that have improved have done so because they have a clear game plan and normally one based on the type of players, simple. I feel our game plan is either unclear....or its not right for the type of players we pick..or its right for the backs but not the forward or visa versa

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    @dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

    I think Victor, kiwi_expat is exactly the type of person that Kieran Crowley was talking about when he was spoke of arrogant kiwi supporters. One who believes that if someone beats the ABs it is because ABs are poor, not because teams like France and Ireland have very very good teams.

    Those things don't have to be mutually exclusive. To me the ABs were poor. The game plan was easily read and nullified by the opposition for the majority of the game. Skills execution under pressure were poor, as was the decision making.

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    @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    The search for a 6 that compliments Ardie at 8 continues.

    Christ. Surely Fozzie can coach Akira to say something nice about how tall Ardie is looking?!! 🙂

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

    @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    The search for a 6 that compliments Ardie at 8 continues.

    Christ. Surely Fozzie can coach Akira to say something nice about how tall Ardie is looking?!! 🙂

    Typical south islander, put all the blame on Akira instead of the Tongan thug from your invitational XV. 😉

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    @nepia I'm blaming Fozzie!

    Notable that Toddy's nicely-brought-up and polite son, got the inside running late in the season.

    "Woah, shiny boots, Ardie!"

    1. Ethan Blackadder.
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    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

    @nepia I'm blaming Fozzie!

    Notable that Toddy's nicely-brought-up and polite son, got the inside running late in the season.

    "Woah, shiny boots, Ardie!"

    1. Ethan Blackadder.

    Did he get injured against Ireland as he didn't play against the best team of the tour? (Which in hindsight was a good game to miss).

    Nice deflection away from your imported Ta$man thug though.

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    @nepia He was a highlander when doing his thuggy stuff.

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

    @nepia He was a highlander when doing his thuggy stuff.

    He's a Ta$man-ian 365 days per year. Learnt his thuggery in Nelson, unleashed it on the poor unsuspecting good folks in Dunedin.

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    @nepia i've always liked you

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    @nepia He's an import and hasn't spent enough time within our borders for the good influence to soak right through.

    You would have thought Mitch Hunt's goodness would have radiated far enough to keep Shannon under control, but apparently not.

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

    @nepia He's an import and hasn't spent enough time within our borders for the good influence to soak right through.

    You would have thought Mitch Hunt's goodness would have radiated far enough to keep Shannon under control, but apparently not.

    Jesus, he's been in Ta$man for 7 years, damn I feel sorry for you primary school teachers if 7 years isn't enough to teach someone right from wrong.

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:

    He's an import

    nooooo

    seriously?

    an import? In the South Central Vikings?

    I for one am shocked. Shocked i tell you

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    #355

    Here's the backs.

    Halfback

    At Risk
    TJP

    Will be kept on
    Christie
    Weber

    Definites
    Smith

    All our eggs are in the speed basket here.

    First-fives

    Gone
    DMac

    Definites
    B Barrett
    Mounga

    Would like to see one of the bubbling under 10s in Super put their hand up and I think we need a third option for touring. There is an open spot.

    Midfield

    At Risk

    Ennor

    Definite
    ALB
    R Ioane

    Will be kept on
    Tupaea
    Havili

    Havili will probably stay around as utility but room for others to show their wares. (RTS, post injury Goodhue). We still aren't fixed in this area but I don't buy into the obsession that we need to settle on two and play them all the time.

    Three-quarters

    At Risk
    Bridge

    Will be kept on
    Reece

    Definite
    Jordan
    J Barrett

    When you drop Reiko into the midfield box we are surprisingly light on options here. Wingers can sometimes appear as a flash iin the pan at the right time and there are a few around that could hit form to do just that. If we want Jordie to use his attacking instincts like Bender used to then we need Jordan to play as a second fullback. Strike winger should be whoever is on a hot streak and can finish attacks in traffic. That removes Bridge from the equation IMO.

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    @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    Would like to see one of the bubbling under 10s in Super put their hand up and I think we need a third option for touring. There is an open spot.

    I'd like Perofeta to get that third 10 position, it looks like he's matured a lot and it's paying dividends for the Blues.

    There is a lot to like about Ruben Love aswell but I don't think he will be in the picture until after the World Cup. He's still got plenty of growing to do.

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    @crucial Bit early to call, but i don't see ho Tupaea's woeful defence can keep him in the discussion and Havili isn't exactly setting the world on fire to assuage concerns about his Test form.

    Of all positions, the midfield is the most contentious an open. Only ALB is guaranteed, RIoane by virtue of being a guaranteed winger if not centre.

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    @canes4life said in All Blacks 2022:

    @crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    Would like to see one of the bubbling under 10s in Super put their hand up and I think we need a third option for touring. There is an open spot.

    I'd like Perofeta to get that third 10 position, he's looked bloody good this year and has seemed to have matured.

    I'd like that too if he can see more time in the 10 jersey once BB comes back.

    I don't see Gatland or Ioane as options in black at the moment

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @crucial i was going to ask how chiefs fans though Ioane was going

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    The point of listing players like that is to see how difficult it actually is to put together a XV at this stage.

    I would only ink in maybe 8 players with question marks around some.

    Absolute definite would be few, maybe Cane, Smith, ALB, Jordie, Jordan.

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