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    @Smuts said in Springboks v Wales 2nd Test:

    @Catogrande not going to lie, this hurt my feelings.

    But you’re right, of course. It’s shockingly disrespectful not to persist with Jantjies. Tradition now demands we play our walking 30 point handicap. With typical Souf African petulance we’ve compounded our effrontery by bringing in some scrub who doesn’t even start for his club.

    No doubt about it, Rassie and Nienaber simply don’t respect the spirit of the game. True rugby purists would’ve stuck with the pack that ran nice and hard directly into the waiting maw of Wales’ chop tackle defence, struggled to attain any traction from the maul and battled at the lineout. The disdainful bastards can’t even pay lip service to the values that animate our great game by maintaining the insanely unbalanced loose trio the Welsh dominated in the first half.

    Besides, the second game of a home test series you’ve taken the lead in is not the time for squad building, load management and examining combinations. Certainly not a year out from a World Cup.

    That’s best done against the All Blacks, preferably at Eden Park, with the Rugby Championship in the balance, with the RWC squad announcement a few short weeks away. So that you can drop a boring, wrong, whiney video to distract everyone from what a clusterfuck you made, as I believe, is now tradition.

    this rates high on the salt scale

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    Would be a real shame if the Boks played worst then last week.

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  • CatograndeC Online
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    @Smuts

    Is that the sound of you circling the wagons mate?

    In honesty I’m not sure which argument of your two that is your main point. Is it the argument that changes needed to be made from the first test based on performance? That’s reasonable of course but 14 changes? That would imply the coach and selectors got more or less everything wrong.

    Or is it that other players and combos need to be tried out and it’s better to do that wholesale v Wales rather than v NZ at Eden Park with TRC on the line. That puts Wales firmly in their place. How many changes would there be if it was Australia? 8? 10? Less?

    Edit: Or are you agreeing with my point albeit in a tongue in cheek manner. That thought has just occurred to me.😧

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    Appears more like a coaching unit thinking it’s just a matter of time before the team clicks regardless of the personnel.

    And Wales can’t play any differently and/or better.

    With a different ref and without Tomos Williams’ brain fart we (Wales) could easily be 1-0 up.

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    @MiketheSnow hopefully this weekend

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    Must applaud RasNaber to plan this well in advance and stick with it. I like the 6,7,8 combination and love the back three who play 15 aswell and midfield.

    Wish the experiment further by cut out box kick (Hendrikse is a terrible kicker) and run back at them with that speed and skill of the back 3.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    wales.jpg

    Cuthbert in at 11

    Wainwright on the bench for more than likely his first cap

    Us by 4-8

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    @MiketheSnow
    Didn't Thomas start the first test too?

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    @gibbon-rib said in Springboks v Wales 2nd Test:

    @MiketheSnow
    Didn't Thomas start the first test too?

    My bad

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  • SmutsS Offline
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    @Catogrande my point was mainly to amuse myself instead of doing work.

    But also, yes:

    • Changes were justified by performance;

    • This is the best test for wholesale experimentation before the RWC and substantial experiments are needed;

    • Of course that implies that I agree with the coaches that this Welsh team is not as strong as the All Blacks and Australia (I’m conveniently leaving the Argies out of this.)

    Is any of that enough for neutrals to reconsider their desire to see the boks thrashed for hubris? Probably not.

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    @Smuts

    I can agree with the last bit 😉

    I wish you, as a die hard Bok supporter, good luck for Saturday but I shall be shouting for Wales. Though I feel a little uncomfortable saying that.

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    @Catogrande Cheers mate. And reciprocated.

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    @MiketheSnow that’s why we play three games, no?

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    @Catogrande said in Springboks v Wales 2nd Test:

    @Smuts

    I can agree with the last bit 😉

    I wish you, as a die hard Bok supporter, good luck for Saturday but I shall be shouting for Wales. Though I feel a little uncomfortable saying that.

    You loves it really

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    @Smuts said in Springboks v Wales 2nd Test:

    @MiketheSnow that’s why we play three games, no?

    Indeed

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  • SmutsS Offline
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    @MiketheSnow let’s try this again: that’s a solid team. Backline looks dangerous. Loosies look ok. But fatties look … appetizing.

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    @Smuts said in Springboks v Wales 2nd Test:

    @MiketheSnow let’s try this again: that’s a solid team. Backline looks dangerous. Loosies look ok. But fatties look … appetizing.

    I rate your 23

    We're just a little better

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    @MiketheSnow I hope that my view on this is the same come the final whistle on Saturday.

    Separately, amazing accomplishment by North, playing his 104th test for Wales on the weekend. Especially when you think of his trouble with injuries and how young he still is. Wonderful player.

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    @OomPB stem Oom. Very exciting loosies and back three.

    And you’re getting your wish on box kicking. Saw much less of it last week in favour of more kicking from 10:

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