@Frank nope , not at all. As a Stormers supporter I hate the current gameplan as much as anyone else. Our coach tried the same (when we had the Bok tight 5, Kolisi and PSdT) but he changed that and got results
Not much in it. Injuries buggered Aussie backline, and the way the half went hampered what looked to me like opportunity against tiring Boks.
As it was, BOK’s refereeing mid half left a lot to be desired. Nine consecutive penalties including seven around 22 only gave way to warning, when a yellow was warranted. Then TMO call for relieving penalty. Wallabies might well have expected to have scored a try after all that at around 60, and at 10-17 would have made it more interesting.
As was, Boks’ mugging of Gold in H1 was always likely to be decisive.
The first 15 minutes were pretty crazy. Welsh tackle count ? and penalty count? It was pretty impressive from the Boks. The guys left a few tries out there but still won pretty comfortably after their week off. Thought Carley was decent but the turf at CT stadium needs sorting asap. Trevor N and PTSD still need gametime imo. Hope the guys enjoyed sinking a few together afterwards because it really was a tense tight series and I think that next year‘s World Cup is lining up to be a pretty tight affair as well where small margins are going to make a big difference. The Welsh Irish French Scots and Argies will all be looking to get their names engraved for the first time with arguably more justifiable hope than ever before. Love it.
Lastly…Quick off topic shout out to Chile for beating USA 👌🏻
Most undeserved YC I've ever seen. Hard luck to AWJ. I can only imagine how spitting mad any Welshman must have been.
Not a terrible outing for the Boks. In the final reckoning, the inexperience and at times lack of combination time showed. But the players will be better for it. Some of them will have advanced their claims, while others are clearly still work in progress.
Looking forward to the series decider this weekend. I'll be there and expect / hope for a good one.
All over. Finn "Dan Carter" Russell not having his best game, but not helped by Scottish forwards getting absolutely dominated.
Showed today he’s not a Test player
Well, aside from 50 odd caps for Scotland, two Lions tours and generally being lauded as the most creative 10 in the UK you’re definitely right.
International player who blows very hot & very cold.
That’s not a Test player in my book.
Spencer v Mehrtens springs to mind.
So if you have an off game you’re not a test player ?
He’s had a tad more than one
Oh for sure but I think an apt description of him and his style of play is “mercurial”…..a bit like Spencer as you mentioned, Quade Cooper and his coach Gregor Townsend. I don’t think you can really label him “not a test player” as just the week before he orchestrated a very good win over Australia.
He also does extremely well for someone built like a pro soccer player.
There’s no doubting his talent and skills.
He may well be remembered as one of Scotland’s greats.
Shallow pool but yeah. Up there with Townsend, Chalmers and Rutherford.
There is also a premium article on Rugbypass, pointing out similar errors. In addition, the lack of growth in attacking plays, with the same plays that were used Vs Fiji& Oz, also used Vs boks. Not only that, they've been around since the Hansen era
The try mentioned is the Savea one, which was just saying beaudy brilliance, and not a set play
The try highlighted the possibilities for the All Blacks had they schemed deliberately for what they were facing, instead of rolling out Foster’s same old menu and trying to take on the Springboks in areas of strength like the maul.
Based on their two games against the Springboks, Rennie and his staff looked far superior to the All Blacks brains trust when it came to game planning for the world champions.
They tailored their game to the opposition to attack the weaknesses, whereas the All Blacks naively went brazenly forward trying to attack South Africa’s strengths and it backfired.
This should be a key lesson for Foster’s All Blacks moving forward. In the organised parts of the game, they cannot change the pieces performing the roles, run the same plays against everyone and expect them to work.
There needs to be some flexibility there and more thought into the process.
The fact that they were running the same starter play with McKenzie on the left wing showed a certain level of naivety that, to no surprise, blew up.
In tight test matches where counter-attacking opportunities dry up, the All Blacks will need to have a clinical set-piece attacking plan which, at times, needs to be adjusted for the opposition.
They might have the most attacking talent in the world, but they still need decent plans to be devised to help them get the match-ups and space they need to let their skills shine.
You cannot roll up and play the same against Fiji as you do against the Springboks and expect to win handsomely.
It could work, or it could just as easily blow up like it did twice in the Rugby Championship..
Sorry to go back to this ...
Fair enough the Boks were up in our faces, brutal, energetic rugged commonsense rugby with some nicely worked out tries, pinpointed our weakest players, Vermeulen was again very good but very good at key moments (so, great player), their locks are bigger and tougher than before and quite frankly Taylor went into his shell after his miscatch, DMac and Havili and Richie were pounced on, they just don't have the mass, Patty T is a turnover waiting to happen, and Scotty B made yet more little stupid yellow coloured mistakes in front of the ref. I don't think he is a journeyman, just a solid international quality hardworking lock with brain fades at key moments.
But we lack a hardworking hardnosed lock when Sammy W. is not there (and he is more an all-round hardworking good lock with great rugby brain rather than a hard bugger) and BBBR was still working back to his physically dominant self (but not in this match).
Loosies: I thought Akira was generally ok, Savea was good, it was at 8 that a forward went missing. When Blackadder came on he was up in their faces and battled. So I am still surprised, what the hell happened to LJ, where was he? I saw him standing behind rucks and a bit after halftime but nothing dominant, nothing much to see.
I wonder if we still have a key problem at 8 as well.
I don't blame the coaches too much (apart, as the article rightly says, not targetting opposition weaknesses). but they should have realized DH would be targetted at 12, there is little point in DMac against the ABs if there are 2 10s (and you want JB on as long as possible, he was great again), but at midfield, we lacked dominance we lacked impact, and we lacked imagination. And Samisoni is clearer better for this sort of game than Asafo.
Shout out to wings, I thought they played well. But we really have depth problems at lock and selection issues in the midfield. We were lucky the Boks persist with Pollard and Le Roux and can't get Steyn to full game fitness. He looks like a truckstop diner not a deft placement kicker but boy can he get them key territory.
I thought the ref missed neck rolls/high tackles, offsides at rucks, general offsides and so forth but hey it was what it was. We had an off night and they had an on night.
I thought we were outcoached as well, their bench timing was great again.
Congrats Aussies. First time in forever that I’ve not even watched the highlights. Hope it feels great.
Cheers. Not a great couple of games by your okes but hopefully they'll take it out on the ABs 😉
I don't know much about your coach, but a quick wiki search shows he's Rassie's man, and TBH it smacks a little of nepotism. Hopefully there is a bit of a shakeup and the Boks find their groove. And some fitness training!
One thing on which I agree with Keo: trying to play like someone else is just going to hurt the Boks. Use their strengths by all means, but they've not yet made sure they can execute that to the level required against faster teams.
Interesting to see how the aftermath of the Rassie thing has been totally ignored by the local media and official channels.
Glad to hear that the result of the series is not being over-turned though! But, a bit disappointing that 3 of the allegations of errors were found incorrect by the expert officials panel. He was ruled correct on only a measly 23 of them.
But, the huge leaked revelation/allegation is that Erasmus sent a copy of the video to Referee Nic Berry before it surfaced in Aussie media. Looks like somebody deliberately hung Erasmus out to dry. I wonder if any action will be taken on that, as apparently sending a review video to a referee is not a novel thing?
@stodders the two things that stick out are the stoppages and that incident where the s&c coach got told off in NZ2.
Townsend had a bit of wingh this week about his players being sledged from the sidelines by the SA support staff (though I think he missed the actual sledge - the comments were in Afrikaans and half his team understood what was said - call it a meta sledge).
It's all very class stuff.
If you win it's fine (see Aussie cricket circa 2003) but if lose or are just average you soon become Aussie cricket in 2018.
See Haddin ODI CWC Final 2015... to quote: we won didn't we?
@Higgins ja it is quite controversial. The Boys High (blue) nr 8 knocked the ball on when he scored that try , the ref should have allowed a penalty try earlier for Gim (green/maroon/yellow) Team plus a card for a deliberate knock on by Boys High There was 26,000 attending and the old boys ran on before the end whistle which was sad. Western Province and Saru will hopefully learn from this and appoint a top ref and TMO for such a big match. Faure Stadium will sadly get wired to prevent running on the pitch.
However today everything has forgotten and Monday Paarl will be normal again.
Players from the two school in the current Bok squad are Handre Pollard and Williams Gim and Salman Moerat and Evan Roos Boys High
Note that I have no opinion about his guilt or innocence in terms of a criminal charge. If the police find enough evidence for the prosecuting authority to bring charges, then he needs to face up to these like anyone else.
Can't help but feel what's holding Italy back is that the majority of their players play for Italian clubs.
Apparently the forwards on the bench, according to one of the commentators, all came from the one club.
All the best domestic Italian players are from either Bennetton or Zebre as they play in the Pro14 so are playing at a higher standard than the Italian Top12. Looking at their RWC squad there are only 5 players who play outside of Italy (1 in France, 4 in England).