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    I'm not smart enough to explain this further so that you'll understand.

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    @antipodean said in Foster:

    Now you're starting to grasp the complexities. The next step is to simply replace names. I'm going to presume you still won't understand.

    You can make your points without being so condescending.

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    @Frank said in Foster:

    @antipodean said in Foster:

    Now you're starting to grasp the complexities. The next step is to simply replace names. I'm going to presume you still won't understand.

    You can make your points without being so condescending.

    Condescension is all I had left.

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    @antipodean said in Foster:

    I'm not smart enough to explain this further so that you'll understand.

    I don't need or have to Understand your BS as its irrelevant to what is going to happen going forward.
    Your thoughts and opinions are not all encompassing that the world stands still when you open your mouth.

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    @Chris said in Foster:

    Your thoughts and opinions are not all encompassing that the world stands still when you open your mouth.

    I must say that feedback comes as a shock. In third grade Ms Battenburg said the class would stop until I'd finished and then they could go back to learning.

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    @Chris I am asking about MacDonald and Holland, particularly the former in an assistant role.

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    @Bovidae said in Foster:

    @Chris I am asking about MacDonald and Holland, particularly the former in an assistant role.

    Ok not sure on that.
    defence and attack maybe.McDonald worked on defence when he was under Razor at the Crusaders.

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    @antipodean said in Foster:

    Ms Battenburg

    Ms Battenburg got it wrong but she probably had a lovely Rack.

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    @Crucial said in Foster:

    Some reading from the soothsayers of the Fern

    https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/3608/poll-the-final-choice-ab-coach?page=1

    [Poll] The final choice (AB Coach)  The Silver Fern.png

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    @taniwharugby said in Foster:

    @Chris I do wonder if all this talk from the players about how great a coach (guy) Fozzie is, did inspire them knowing another defeat was the end of him...

    I mean he can be a top bloke, but a poor coach and still inspire his players, just a shame it got to this point for the players to become inspired or clearer, or was just timing of the aligned stars with the exit of Moar/Plumtree and the bigger influence of Ryan/Schmidt?

    The players who have spoken on TV I have heard have not said they think he a great coach not a nice bloke. Well that is Havili and Savea that I just heard, and Mounga last week. So perhaps we can put to bed the they think he's a nice bloke thing?

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    @Machpants

    I knew a few people that backed Foster solely because Hansen said he was good to go.

    At the time I argued that leopards don't change their spots, but Hansen's endorsement meant that they believed Fostyer had learned enough as AB assistant.

    Hansen has to bear a huge amount of the blame here. He had massive sway, and he used it unwisely.

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    @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

    @Machpants

    I knew a few people that backed Foster solely because Hansen said he was good to go.

    At the time I argued that leopards don't change their spots, but Hansen's endorsement meant that they believed Fostyer had learned enough as AB assistant.

    Hansen has to bear a huge amount of the blame here. He had massive sway, and he used it unwisely.

    I'm surprised, everyone I've talked to around the time had realised Hansen had lost his edge, and obviously should have gone as originally planned after the lions series. His judgement was suspect by then, the 'after more than 7 years in the job you're past your peak and is time to move on' effect was very obvious

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    @WillieTheWaiter

    Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

    Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

    The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

    As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

    Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

    One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
    Lots at stake this week it seems

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    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

    @WillieTheWaiter

    Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

    Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

    The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

    As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

    Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

    One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
    Lots at stake this week it seems

    been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

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    @ploughboy said in Foster:

    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

    @WillieTheWaiter

    Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

    Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

    The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

    As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

    Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

    One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
    Lots at stake this week it seems

    been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

    More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

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    @Chris said in Foster:

    @ploughboy said in Foster:

    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

    @WillieTheWaiter

    Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

    Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

    The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

    As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

    Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

    One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
    Lots at stake this week it seems

    been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

    More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

    we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

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    @ploughboy said in Foster:

    @Chris said in Foster:

    @ploughboy said in Foster:

    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

    @WillieTheWaiter

    Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

    Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

    The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

    As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

    Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

    One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
    Lots at stake this week it seems

    been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

    More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

    we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

    We have already found out some of it.

    Cane being dropped as Captain etc.

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    @Chris said in Foster:

    @ploughboy said in Foster:

    @Chris said in Foster:

    @ploughboy said in Foster:

    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

    @WillieTheWaiter

    Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

    Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

    The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

    As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

    Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

    One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
    Lots at stake this week it seems

    been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

    More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

    we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

    We have already found out some of it.

    Cane being dropped as Captain etc.

    then again that might be found out next week to

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    @ploughboy said in Foster:

    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

    @WillieTheWaiter

    Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

    Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

    The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

    As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

    Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

    One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
    Lots at stake this week it seems

    been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

    Sauce??

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    @broughie said in Foster:

    But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can DRAG HIM UPWARDS - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.

    Just rip that plaster off.

    Excellent word choices in bold.

    This is like one of those posts someone puts up with a picture containing a play button in the middle.

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